From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 18 17:13:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21341065674; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:13:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FE48FC17; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vincemacbook.unsane.co.uk (vincemacbook.unsane.co.uk [10.10.10.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5IHDcMw089606 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:13:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4FDF6177.5050608@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:12:23 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_Peltom=E4ki?= References: <20120615124849.GI96212@ass.kameli.org> <20120618081140.GK96212@ass.kameli.org> In-Reply-To: <20120618081140.GK96212@ass.kameli.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Nathan Whitehorn , Outback Dingo , Richard Yao , openrc@gentoo.org, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:13:40 -0000 On 18/06/2012 09:11, Atte Peltomäki wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 03:43:37PM -0400, Outback Dingo wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Atte Peltomäki wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 02:09:38PM -0400, Richard Yao wrote: >>>> Also, I am certain that the OpenRC developers would be thrilled if >>>> FreeBSD adopted OpenRC. If FreeBSD core is interested in OpenRC, feel >>>> free to contact the OpenRC and/or the Gentoo FreeBSD developers. We >>>> would all love to see OpenRC in upstream FreeBSD. >>> Replacing rc(8) has a lot of risks and not many benefits. Current system >>> is somewhat limited, but it works, it's simple to understand and >>> everyone already knows it and uses it. >>> >>> Solaris SMF is by far the most advanced bootup/service manager I've come >>> across, [...] >>> >>> Personally, as much as I like power of SMF, I think FreeBSD devs have >>> much more important (and interesting) things to do. >> Theres always Launchd also......... > Launchd is strikingly similar to SMF, which probably isn't a > coincidence, knowing how much other code Apple pulled from Solaris > during those days. > There was even some work done to get it working for FreeBSD if anyone feels like taking it up again. http://wiki.freebsd.org/launchd