From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Nov 18 2:17:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF70637B404 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 02:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAF743E6E for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 02:17:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Received: from contactdish (contactdish.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAIAHj929550 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:17:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <06bd01c28eeb$bd4e9de0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Chat" References: <20021117160245.U23359-100000@hub.org> <058a01c28e7c$c1af5f60$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20021117210742.GG17611@over-yonder.net> <05c701c28e95$4c8c9c70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3DD8483C.4E4AD6F6@mindspring.com> <06af01c28ee7$189b5da0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3DD8B845.5E3BC445@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:17:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry writes: > Apparently, Microsoft just spent a lot of > money getting a CCSE evaluation, and only > achieved a CAPP/EAL4, which basically means > that they OS can't be safely hooked to the > Internet, without the risk of being compromised > by anyone with a "cracker's cookbook". Virtually no operating system can be simultaneously hooked to the Internet _and_ remain fully secure. UNIX is similarly vulnerable, as are just about all other mainstream operating systems. Multics, BLACKER, SCOMP, and some others were far more secure, but I don't know what happened to them (Multics, the OS of which UNIX is a subset, is dead, but the others I don't know about). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message