From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 21 19:38:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24010 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24000 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 02:37:50 GMT (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00976; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:37:36 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980422123732.26573@welearn.com.au> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:37:32 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Malartre Cc: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: #freebsd-newbies References: <353BB623.59353921@aei.ca> <19980421183744.56403@welearn.com.au> <353D0BF9.E6B2193@aei.ca> <19980422102451.37232@welearn.com.au> <353D4FE8.CB060112@aei.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <353D4FE8.CB060112@aei.ca>; from Malartre on Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 10:03:20PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 10:03:20PM -0400, Malartre wrote: > *brain-dead* newbies as in the mail on hackers@freebsd.org Get used to it, until we can *demonstrate* that they are wrong (or right, hehe) > Sue, your a very logic person :-) I've been reading man pages too long :-) > I will answer your question (if i find the mail, I will try) > Well, a channel need to start somewhere. There might be more people happy about us being on irc.bsdnet.org than you think. It all depends on how we handle it. Their main concerns seem to be: 1. Newbies might ask questions in channels where people don't want to answer questions. This feeling is very strong! We would have to make sure that didn't happen. If we can help to keep newbies out of the other channels by being there, they would be pleased. 2. Newbies will tell each other the wrong advice, and give FreeBSD a bad name. Nobody is available to help newbies, and if a newbie can't get an answer there is no other channel to send them to. Some people say that there's a lot of brain-dead newbies on efnet already and we should go there, but I get the impression newbies are not treated very well on efnet. Does anyone have experience? If we take up residence on irc.bsdnet.org and after that newbies go to the wrong channel asking for help, we will be called names much worse than "brain-dead". We could prove them wrong. It could be a very good place or very bad, depending on how we do it. Do you think you could convince other newbies to stay in their channel? Would they want to? What are you offering them? -- Regards, -*Sue*- find / -name "*.conf" |more To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message