From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Thu Mar 25 19:09:14 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BD65783F4 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F5vmB0C0Vz4XSp; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 12PJ9NVE017934; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:09:23 -0700 From: Chris To: Ed Maste Cc: freebsd-stable stable Subject: Re: Vinum deprecation for FreeBSD 14 - are there any remaining Vinum users? In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: X-Sender: bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F5vmB0C0Vz4XSp X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:09:14 -0000 On 2021-03-25 10:25, Ed Maste wrote: > Vinum is a Logical Volume Manager that was introduced in FreeBSD 3.0, > and for FreeBSD 5 was ported to geom(4) as gvinum. gvinum has had no > specific development at least as far back as 2010 and it is not clear > how well it works today. There are open PRs with reports of panics > upon removing disks, etc. And, it also imposes an ongoing cost as it > must be updated when other work is done (such as the recent MAXPHYS > work). I suspect that by now all users have migrated to either > graid(8) or ZFS. > > I plan to add a deprecation notice after a short discussion period, > assuming no reasonable justification is made to retain it. The notice > would suggest graid and ZFS as alternatives, and would be merged in > advance of FreeBSD 13.1. Then, gvinum would be removed in advance of > FreeBSD 14.0. > > Please follow up if you have experience or input on vinum in FreeBSD, > including past use but especially if you are still using it today and > expect to continue doing so. I can only state that I use it only occasionally, and that when I do. I have had no problems with it. I'm glad that it's there when I need it. Further; I find it easier to setup and use, as compared to the alternatives. It is also "lighter" than the alternatives. While it wouldn't be "the end of the world" if it disappeared. I'm really glad it's there. --Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"