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Date:      Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:01:51 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>
To:        Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Fixing Posix semaphores
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1041221235624.62809A-100000@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <1102975803.30309.196.camel@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us>

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Joe Kelsey wrote:

> I have a desire to fix posix semaphores in at least 5.3.  The current
> implementation doesn't actually follow the "spirit" of the standard,
> even though it technically qualifies in a somewhat degraded sense.  I
> refer to the fact that the current implementation treats posix
> semaphores as completely contained inside the kernel and essentially
> divorced from the filesystem.  The true "spirit" of the standard places
> the semaphores directly in the file system, similar to named pipes. 
> However the current implementation treats the supplied "name" as a
> 14-character identifier, required to begin with a slash and contain no
> other slashes.  Pretty weak. 
> 
> Well, in order to fix this, we need to add file system code and come up
> with a new type.  I currently have some time to spend on something like
> this and am willing to put in whatever effort it takes.  Does anyone
> want to add their own ideas or requirements? 

>From my perspective, the biggest win here is that it would permit
different name spaces to trivially exist using multiple mountpoints of a
"semfs".  This would make it easy to allow applications in different jails
to use identical names without colliding. 

FWIW, my only experience with POSIX semaphores on a system other than
FreeBSD is on Darwin, where a similar model is used to that on FreeBSD: a
flat kernel-maintained name space is present.

Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects
robert@fledge.watson.org      Principal Research Scientist, McAfee Research




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