From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 21 11:31:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671F037B404 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail16.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4DE43E3B for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:31:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 1785 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2002 19:31:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail16.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 21 Nov 2002 19:31:23 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gALJVF2D039357; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:31:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3DDD2CB8.7E080912@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:31:19 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: Cross-Development with NetBSD Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, "M. Warner Losh" , Ruslan Ermilov Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-Nov-2002 Terry Lambert wrote: > Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:10:14AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: >> > In message: <20021121151714.U961-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> >> > "Wilkinson,Alex" writes: >> > : Is FreeBSD likely to follow the in footsteps of NetBSD and create >> > : a framework to do crossbuilds ? >> > : >> > : http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200211/xdevnetbsd.html >> > >> > FreeBSD already has cross builds for a while, since before NetBSD's >> > cross build infrastructure. However, NetBSD's infrastructure is a >> > little more extensive because it is possible to do incremental builds >> > and build full releases that work in a cross build evironment. >> >> What do you mean by "incremental builds and full releases that work ..."? > > You know, like changing one line in /usr/src/lib/libstand on > a source tree on a x86 box, typing "make release", and having > only the things that need to be rebuilt being rebuilt, resulting > in a working FreeBSD-Alpha or FreeBSD-SPARC64 release CDROM image. Make release is a very poor example b/c make release goes to great efforts to create a clean-room environment for a release. make rerelease is quite helpful though and does do what you want to restart a previous release. :) Also, make buildworld -DNOCLEAN isn't too shabby, though if I could do make TARGET_ARCH=alpha everything I would prefer that. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message