From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 2 16:33:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE32106564A; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D310D8FC14; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pB2GX5i6074144; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:33:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pB2GX4Hs074139; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:33:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:33:04 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: Chris Rees Message-ID: <20111202163304.GA43138@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20111202015133.GA4111@dragon.NUXI.org> <20111202064132.GC88903@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4ED8776F.9060301@FreeBSD.org> <20111202072349.GA89183@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20111202083501.GA73959@dragon.NUXI.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Lyndon Nerenberg , Max Khon Subject: Re: WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes by default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:33:06 -0000 On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 04:23:40PM +0000, Chris Rees wrote: > On 2 Dec 2011 15:57, "Lyndon Nerenberg" wrote: >> >> >> If you choose not to profile your code, that's entirely your choice. >> Breaking this functionality for everyone else who *does* make the effort to >> profile their code is a non-starter. > > Nothing is being broken here, just a default being changed. > > Users make up a greater proportion of our userbase than developers, so > sensible defaults for them are more appropriate, right? Users don't run freebsd-current (unless they are willing to accept the inherit risks/warts associated with it). -- Steve