From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 01:47:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F06B774F for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 01:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x22c.google.com (mail-qg0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF0E22A1E for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 01:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id j107so4456441qga.17 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 18:47:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=NDpzmv/fWJmxJapETW8k17L8hukKR4uB1SdwHByCdjQ=; b=PV7nKaiMwlFIbLTz8mltzSYR2OL0iHgQ52vUlaUhZpROj/GD4diDuwue+Q89Cky+JQ cvrXkQSAHND+lt9L3saKNJ4lIM7M16CF/LNkoCzGurQI33VlFeioqU07QhBSOi1QqvxQ SDdxwmIRjVoRGjtMnDN3Xw72IzLHDAPdaTOEbtO8QLwmmlGK2CrxuxiPQI2QZOqfaifG DEEJ+6E2ez6+3cJ4qdOr896AckhSlZD6bfUqym504xhgMEuCUr7XVh8IXAPRkZayrAWQ 8gV4A0Gl1Iv0IjUqnQ5QYOPTz93YyTYtyWvebC3TVdYWxiF+9WPzPieWRt2X/SfKlFQN Hh1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.16.200 with SMTP id p8mr55080907qaa.76.1404784022804; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 18:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.202.193 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 18:47:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140707204912.GA11191@anubis.morrow.me.uk> References: <53B69B88.4060803@gmail.com> <20140705103235.GB7680@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <20140706220006.K50382@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20140707204912.GA11191@anubis.morrow.me.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 18:47:02 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Hjz_PwzkA1S6FbL5DdsncE5QTh4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Should 9.3 carry a warning about NEW_XORG From: Adrian Chadd To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 01:47:04 -0000 Plenty of stuff doesn't have a non-accelerated fallback these days. It's .. stupid. -a On 7 July 2014 13:49, Ben Morrow wrote: > Quoth Warren Block : >> On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, Ian Smith wrote: >> >> > Seeing that a perhaps not miniscule proportion of 9.x X users will need >> > to do some manual configuration on upgrading to 9.3, a relevant WARNING >> > in http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/relnotes.html should be helpful. >> >> I can agree with the idea of a note, just have no clear idea what it >> should say. If people are shown how to stick with the old xorg, they >> will be marooned and ports that require the newer version will not work. >> People that upgrade may find their hardware no longer supported. That's >> sort of the price of progress with technology. > > (No, it's the price of depending on a CADT upstream. It's a shame > FreeBSD doesn't have the manpower to maintain a fork, since that would > really be the only reliable option at this point.) > > The note should say exactly what you just said: there are no good > options. Many configurations will either break now or break soon, unless > you're willing to fall back to VESA-only (is that likely to remain a > viable option in all cases?). While this is a deplorable situation, > there is nothing the FreeBSD project can do about it. > > Ben > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"