From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 11 01:48:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD16922C for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 01:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 492892595 for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 01:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id e16so963370lan.28 for ; Sat, 10 May 2014 18:48:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=cEbOoC/KMrHLKbm0CZEN7sXN8h0hgvgxPXwS42I2tI4=; b=gGT4mi8KSvs/wpaFJs4gfua3e2UzhrlxdBvA+NyvER++Nob5S/x5g7b46ZY9tZYtKt KjPRxel5a2MLdPtI8sTZ0HKWGFm/OtBWylAefMNBhCXBIsH+XuQAAUGIgRCEPykbVW2U yzZktY3McyiZP6AKbslXPDNeY45kpeOCb9yHIodgKla8Pf4FvlsuP3jW9U4qk5vt1fqy 6wSjc/C8bIz9Sl3xpHFTF7tgtfRXd/StWVWLNuCcDFOE5yLJAdauqmlCTT7/CKmQbEA/ ckcimXptCOp6CxNpho7gd+AuFMuPE2QBEXG4PseZgx6+cFGMdx8hXlgLn9VNINlCjdxl Sw+A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkojLUWFqrGMLsZXqDxlhT17qy+i+veBmB2tEQB2Yvl3IPNYT8NeDVGGhoSdK3OKeERJcce MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.43.135 with SMTP id w7mr6337386lal.32.1399772925436; Sat, 10 May 2014 18:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.170.168 with HTTP; Sat, 10 May 2014 18:48:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [121.98.161.40] In-Reply-To: <536E46E0.7030906@FreeBSD.org> References: <536E46E0.7030906@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 13:48:45 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ACTION REQUIRED - Unstaged Ports being DEPRECATED on June 31st. From: Jonathan Chen To: portmgr-feedback@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 01:48:53 -0000 On 11 May 2014 03:33, Bryan Drewery wrote: [...] > So we will be DEPRECATING and resetting maintainer on all unstaged ports > on June 31st. > > These ports will be set to EXPIRE on August 31st and will then be > removed from the tree. They will not be restored unless someone stages > them as well. The problem I have with this decision is that there are some complex ports which have no single maintainer (case in point: eclipse-devel); and whose patch-submitters only occasionally dabble with the port. Staging support for these ports sometimes tend to be over-complex, and one that yield no immediate benefit to the submitter. And then there are the ports which have their have their home-baked installer, where adding staging support could mean wholesale changes to the port. It used to be the philosophy of FreeBSD to favour pragmatism over ideology. I must admit to some disappointment over this decision to force staging as the "one true way". Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen