From owner-freebsd-current Wed Feb 26 16:28:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4879537B401 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from kestrel.alerce.com (kestrel.alerce.com [209.182.219.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E69A43F3F for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:28:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@rosebud.alerce.com) Received: from rosebud.alerce.com (rosebud.lbl.gov [131.243.193.115]) by kestrel.alerce.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h1R0SAk6075840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:28:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@rosebud.alerce.com) X-Authentication-Warning: kestrel.alerce.com: Host rosebud.lbl.gov [131.243.193.115] claimed to be rosebud.alerce.com Received: from rosebud.alerce.com (rosebud.alerce.com [127.0.0.1]) by rosebud.alerce.com (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1R0SNMn000310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:28:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@rosebud.alerce.com) Received: (from hartzell@localhost) by rosebud.alerce.com (8.12.7/8.12.6/Submit) id h1R0SM4G000307; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:28:22 -0800 (PST) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15965.23462.155800.442303@rosebud.alerce.com> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:28:22 -0800 To: Darryl Okahata Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "NTLDR missing" after 5-RELEASE install In-Reply-To: <200302262325.PAA11580@mina.soco.agilent.com> References: <15965.7822.181074.204822@rosebud.alerce.com> <200302262325.PAA11580@mina.soco.agilent.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: hartzell@kestrel.alerce.com (George Hartzell) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Darryl Okahata writes: > hartzell@kestrel.alerce.com (George Hartzell) wrote: > > > Only differences are which partition we mark active and what boot > > loader lives there. > > True, but that's the key point: "... and what boot loader lives > there." There are times when not touching the boot loader is desirable. > While GRUB, booteasy, and others are quite perfectly usable for many > people, some of us may be better off with an untouched MBR. But I'm not touching the MBR either. I run a stock sony vaio MBR, and install GRUB into the beginning of my freebsd partition. GRUB and LILO behave nicely there, the standard freebsd boot loader (booteasy?) seems to insist on being in the MBR. If I boot windows, my boot sequence goes MBR -> GRUB (because it's installed in the beginning of the partition that's marked active) -> the window's loader (because grub's been told to chainload to the loader that's in the beginning of the first partition) --> windows. FreeBSD goes something like MBR -> GRUB (ditto, above) --> /boot/loader from the freebsd filesystem (because that's what grub's been told to load for that "title" loader does the normal freebsd stuff, loading the kernel and going for it. It's also possible to have grub boot the freebsd kernel directly, but I like to have both boot up in as much of a native world as possible. g. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message