From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 20 01:49:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E581065698; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estrabd@gmail.com) Received: from x2045.x.rootbsd.net (x2045.x.rootbsd.net [208.86.227.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41D48FC08; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x2045.x.rootbsd.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x2045.x.rootbsd.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7K17OR2052248; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:07:24 GMT (envelope-from estrabd@gmail.com) Received: (from estrabd@localhost) by x2045.x.rootbsd.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o7K17NWk052246; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:07:23 GMT (envelope-from estrabd@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: x2045.x.rootbsd.net: estrabd set sender to estrabd@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:07:23 +0000 From: "B. Estrade" To: Andrew Reilly Message-ID: <20100820010723.GL18105@x2045.x.rootbsd.net> References: <4C650B75.3020800@FreeBSD.org> <4C651192.9020403@FreeBSD.org> <4C673898.2080609@FreeBSD.org> <20100818134341.GA88861@johnny.reilly.home> <20100820004739.GA6576@johnny.reilly.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100820004739.GA6576@johnny.reilly.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i mailed-by: B. Estrade Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "C. P. Ghost" , Ivan Voras Subject: Re: Interpreted language(s) in the base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:49:04 -0000 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:47:39AM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 06:40:37PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote: > > Will have to disagree on that - part of the point of having such a > > thing would be to attract young developers, and while the CS crowd > > will be happy with LISP, anyone starting programming after the first > > .com bubble will probably be repulsed by non-Algol-like syntaxes. > > I suspect that you're right, though that disappoints me > somewhat. The only other language that I'm aware of that does a > reasonable compiles-to-C and has an algol-like syntax is Eiffel > (specifically SmartEiffel), but I haven't used it for years, > and don't know how it's travelling. It's also nowhere near as > dynamic and "fun" a programming experience, IMO. Don't assume that the "CS crowd" are LISP or FP sycophants or that having to program in C is unattractive to new blood (a term I prefer over "young developers"). FWIW, I use Perl to prototype all sorts of algorithms and data structures - and most recently, Qore (I maintain the lang/qore port). But I don't believe either should be in base when it's so dead simple to install them from ports. Cheers, Brett > > Cheers, > > -- > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- B. Estrade