From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Thu Dec 7 14:50:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE9DE8944E for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4238C673C9 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68C127395; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id vB7EoWv2001293 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:50:32 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id vB7EoUAG001292; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:50:30 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= cc: Gordon Tetlow , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Dewayne Geraghty Subject: Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs In-reply-to: <867etyzlad.fsf@desk.des.no> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <97f76231-dace-10c4-cab2-08e5e0d792b5@rawbw.com> <5A2709F6.8030106@grosbein.net> <11532fe7-024d-ba14-0daf-b97282265ec6@rawbw.com> <8788fb0d-4ee9-968a-1e33-e3bd84ffb892@heuristicsystems.com.au> <20171205220849.GH9701@gmail.com> <24153.1512513836@critter.freebsd.dk> <1C30FE91-753A-47A4-9B33-481184F853E1@tetlows.org> <867etyzlad.fsf@desk.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1290.1512658230.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 14:50:30 +0000 Message-ID: <1291.1512658230@critter.freebsd.dk> X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 14:50:35 -0000 -------- In message <867etyzlad.fsf@desk.des.no>, =3D?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=3DC3=3D= B8rgrav?=3D w rites: >Gordon Tetlow writes: >> Assertion of identity and encryption in transit are separate issues. [.= ..] > >You can't have the latter without the former. Assertion of identity is >the only protection against MITM eavesdropping or tampering. Or more generally: If you dont/cant trust the other end, why would you trust them to keep the communication secret ? -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .