From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 10 10:49:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B5D1065672 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E968FC1F for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ROSCM-0006pq-8M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:49:34 +0100 Received: from c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com ([82.209.158.57]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:49:34 +0100 Received: from mc by c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:49:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Cardell Widerkrantz Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:49:19 +0100 Organization: Temple of the Moby Hack Lines: 60 Message-ID: <86r51gjlqo.fsf@kropotkin.hack.org> References: <4EB88225.9020702@bredband.net> <20111108205600.7a8e0205.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111108215114.24d336e6.freebsd@edvax.de> <4EBA5EBD.7020501@bredband.net> <86pqh1njww.fsf@kropotkin.hack.org> <4EBB117F.5010409@bredband.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:kBvWqWwRdnxiUtOWT+25e3i8Emk= Subject: Re: X server and xinit works excellent....almost. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:49:36 -0000 Samuel Magnusson , 2011-11-10 00:49 (+0100): > Michael Cardell Widerkrantz wrote 2011-11-09 21:02: >> What new style XML method? > I'm referring to what Polytropon said about all the "new" stuff > required by X. As I understood him he was talking about the XML-files > to give directions to HAL Ah! HAL! Good riddance! >> Perhaps you can file a Problem Report (PR) with a suggested text? I >> suggest you add the text to the handbook since I assume the X.org >> project won't touch manual pages for the ancient X servers we use in >> FreeBSD. > As I understand you, the man-pages from Xorg that are in FreeBSD are > not allowed to be altered unless the Xorg project do it themselves, I'm sure they can be altered in FreeBSD. I just thought it might be better to add the text to the handbook. Or both. > Anyway, I wasn't aware that the FreeBSD X server was "ancient" and > different from any other. :) We're a few versions behind the X.org bleeding edge since modern servers require kernel changes. Modern X.org servers require Kernel-based Mode Setting (KMS) and Graphics Execution Manager (GEM) and udev support. While it's likely there could be some udev glue on top of devd I don't know if someone is working on it. Warner, perhaps? KMS and GEM, mainly for the intel drivers, are being worked on: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Intel_GPU > Also a good beginners tutorial > on the fonts would be good, because as I understand it there is also > an "old" and a "new" way with the core fonts and the font server, some > methods belonging to one and some to the other. That's true. You can start by reading my blog post about it: http://hack.org/mc/blog/xfonter.html It's in Swedish, I'm afraid, but both your name and the fact that you were talking about a Swedish keyboard earlier makes me think you can cope with that. > But if I do produce something, where should I send the PR and text? See the send-pr(1) manual page. Failing that, use: http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html -- http://hack.org/mc/ Plain text e-mails, please. HTML messages sent to me are silently deleted. OpenPGP welcome, 0xE4C92FA5.