Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:19:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Danial Thom <danial_thom@yahoo.com> To: Beech Rintoul <beech@alaskaparadise.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD is #1 Message-ID: <20060613151929.58218.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <200606121647.29868.beech@alaskaparadise.com>
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--- Beech Rintoul <beech@alaskaparadise.com> wrote: > On Monday 12 June 2006 16:06, Danial Thom > wrote: > > --- Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, > > > > > > Danial Thom wrote: > > > > Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) > > > > > > At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more > > > intensive stress testing > > > and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is > > > stable. > > > > > > Kris > > > > I'm not saying that its not, only that I know > a > > lot of ISPs and more of them are running 4 > than > > 6. In fact I know exactly 0 running 6. So > > proclaiming that Freebsd is #1 without > qualifying > > what version they are running doesn't really > say > > anything. > > > While trying to introduce FreeBSD into a > Micro$oft only house, I've heard the > following many times: > > "Never heard of FreeBSD" and "Show me some > documentation and stats". > > Regardless of the actual version, the stats are > accurate for those providers. > They reflect overall uptime and connectivity. > This isn't about version, it's > about FreeBSD gaining a firmer foothold in a > Micro$oft / Linux dominant > world. Personally, I'll take all the help I can > get. > > 'nuff said, > > Beech I couldn't disagree more. OS versions are like wine vintages. You can't proclaim that a '01 vintage of a wine is also great because a '99 got a great review. With FreeBSD, its even a bigger difference. The kernel is being torn apart to accommodate MP, and you have quite a different development team. DragonflyBSD is based on FreeBSD 4.x also, just as the current FreeBSD is based on 4.11, but you have 2 completely different animals in the making. Of couse you can trick stupid managers with such things, if that's your agenda. But you have a different problem in the commercial world. You can put an ad in the paper and get someone who knows how to administer an MS box (maybe competent), but for FreeBSD forget it. You can't staff an IT dept with FreeBSD gurus. And you can't just switch to FreeBSD because 1 guy in the dept happens to have some experience with it, because all of the other guys become dead wood (if they're not that already). Thats the big problem with getting penetration. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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