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Date:      Sun, 3 Dec 1995 12:15:16 +0100
From:      "Julian Stacey jhs@freebsd.org" <jhs@vector.enet>
To:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>
Cc:        Sergio Lenzi <lenzi@cwbtwo.bsi.com.br>, ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: INGRES 8.9 
Message-ID:  <199512031115.MAA11581@vector.enet>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 02 Dec 1995 18:54:21 EST." <Pine.SUN.3.91.951202184954.8717A-100000@latte.eng.umd.edu> 

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Hi, Responding to:
> From: Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu> 
> Subject: Re: INGRES 8.9 
> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 18:54:21 -0500 (EST) 
> Message-id: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951202184954.8717A-100000@latte.eng.umd.edu> 

Notes:
	- I have removed cc: hackers@ & retained cc: ports@ 
		to reduce cross posting.
	- I was a bit suprised to see this, as I thought I'd sent 
	  private mail to Sergio, but I guess my mouse slipped down the 
	  exmh scroll bar one place too far :-)
	- As quoted, I was in a rush, & have volunteered to work with Sergio :-)

> On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Sergio Lenzi wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> > > Well I ftp'd them & had a v. quick look,
> > > 	For it to be considered a `FreeBSD ported package'
> > > 	it needs a top Makefile that is 
> > > 	bsd make, not gnu make
> > > 	(you can have gnus in the work/ subdir)
> > > 	/usr/ingre/src is unacceptable,
> > > 	it must reside in /usr/ports/databases/ingres
> 
> You know, Julian, there is such a thing as a package, it's not a port, 
> and it already is built.  I didn't think he claimed he had a port, I 
> thought he said it was a package.

Good point !
I'd almost forgotten what a mere `package' is, now we have almost exclusively
`ports' ... I plead guilty to wishful thinking/assumption,
	( but see above: "For it to be considered a `FreeBSD ported package'"
							     ^^^^^^	)
> The bin part of it surely is, 
> anyways.  I think it might be right to urge him to put it in as a 
> port, but completely unfair to tell him he did it wrong.

I did _NOT_ tell him he'd done it wrong ! Now you are being unfair !
I asked him to convert it to a package, & volunteered to test it & commit it
if it was OK.

> I like ports, you like ports, but there IS that alternative, and I think 
> asking him to go that extra step is more friendly than telling him he's 
> wrong because he didn't.

> > > 	anyway I'm out of time,
> > > 	but it doesnt qualify as a FreeBSD package ... yet,
> > > 
> > > 	Would you like to look at a few of the 400 /usr/ports/*/*/Makefile,
> > > 	grab the syntax out of a few, & write a makefile & DESC & pkg/ stuff,
> > > 	
> > > 	then when you've done that i'll test it & if OK commit it.

> > As I see, the interest is growing, I'll promiss to make a 
> > real "PORT", thanks to your assistance. My job in bsi.com.br (an internet 
> > provider is taking me almost all of my time).
> > May be in 1 week or later a "port" will be in "place".

Frankly Chuck, Sergio & I had sorted this out without you,  however
as you have injected yourself into the proceedings,
I now cede to you the honour of testing Sergio's forthcoming port;
let me know when you've finished & it's ready to commit please.  Thanks.

> ============================================================================
> Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2
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