From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 25 16:49:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360CF3C5; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 131DF2307; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local (ppp121-45-246-96.lns20.per2.internode.on.net [121.45.246.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9PGnGMO004853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <526AA106.6090807@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 00:49:10 +0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Chadd , Aleksandr Rybalko Subject: Re: newcons comming References: <20131025151847.2a1b83de93335040797ceaf1@ddteam.net> <20131025160410.b0571b32440703bd9a18ead9@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:49:27 -0000 On 10/25/13 9:29 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Erm, I don't think this is really ready for -HEAD yet? certainly not ready for 10.. but that doesn't mean it can not be in 10.1 the existing console will still be there as default, and if this truely is a big step forward, people will start using it in 10.1 and it can be in 11 as a default. I think it's too late for this to be in 10.0 > > > > -adrian > > > > On 25 October 2013 06:04, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: > >> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:18:47 +0300 >> Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: >> >>> Hello fellow hackers! >>> >>> I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of >>> syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy and have a lot of >>> style(9) problems. But we really have to get it into HEAD and 10.0 to >>> enable shiny new Xorg features, drivers, etc. >>> >>> So I ask everyone to look "hard" into that[1] and tell me your opinion. >>> I expect a lot of opinions, since it have to affect almost all good >>> guys, as result I have to ask to split "bug reports" into two parts: >>> 1. Should be done before merge to 10.0; >>> 2. Can be done later. >>> >>> If it possible, please do it(review - report) ASAP. >>> I have plan to done it that way: >>> 1. Merge newcons to head (in a few days); >>> 2. Fix a lot of reported bugs (2 hrs :-D ); >>> 3. Persuade re@ about we need it in 10.0 (one week, maybe two); >>> 4. Merge to 10.0; >>> 5. One year AFK somewhere on Bahamas;^W^W^W^W^W^W^W >>> 5. Add mouse cut-paste support; >>> 6. Fix new bugs; >>> 7. Some drinks. >>> >>> What do we will have with newcons: >>> * (Think it is main) Allow us to switch to fresh Xorg, which require >>> KMS. >>> * Graphic devices which can provide framebuffer access can be easily >>> used as virtual terminals (someone may have pixel-LCD on front of PC >>> tower, may found it useful :-D ) >>> * See [2]. >>> >>> TODO: >>> * Lack of key mapping files, everyone can help with that using >>> instructions on [3]; >>> * A bit slow (mostly scrolling affected). >>> * Other bugs :) >>> * See [2]. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> [1] - http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/user/ed/newcons/ >>> [2] - >>> >> http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2013-07-2013-09.html#Continuation-of-the-Newcons-Project >>> [3] - >>> >> http://raybsd.blogspot.com/2013/10/newcons-international-keyboard-input.html >>> Hope you will love newcons! >>> And maybe me too :) >>> >>> WBW >>> -- >>> Aleksandr Rybalko >> Forget to give a patch to HEAD, here it is: >> >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~ray/newcons/newcons_to_head_r257107_2013-10-25_1542.diff.gz >> >> Thanks to all! >> >> WBW >> -- >> Aleksandr Rybalko >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >