From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Feb 18 16:42:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mycenae.ilion.eu.org (mycenae.ilion.eu.org [203.35.206.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC22F37BB24; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:42:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrykz@ilion.eu.org) Received: from mycenae.ilion.eu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mycenae.ilion.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA31077; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:41:35 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from patrykz@mycenae.ilion.eu.org) Message-Id: <200002190041.LAA31077@mycenae.ilion.eu.org> To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Mike Nowlin , Mike Smith , Steve Kargl , Steve Ames , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 64bit OS? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:45:16 +0900." <38AD5AFC.D3B15771@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:41:35 +1100 From: Patryk Zadarnowski Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > You're being just plain silly. It takes about 5 minutes with the > > manuals to realize just how little AXP and IA-64 have in common: one > > is a classic superscalar out-of-order design, the other is just about > > the opposite: a typical explicit-ILP architecture. What makes IA-64 > > great is the 8 years of statistical analysis of real-life software the > > architecture design team spent fine-tuning the instruction set. What > > makes AXP great is the clock rates Digital/Compaq manages to pump into > > the beasts ;) > > What makes IA-64 great is the fact that it has not been deployed, so > Intel can say whatever it pleases them. > > If you got REAL LIFE NUMBERS, based on REAL LIFE PERFORMANCE, then we > can talk. Let's see how it does Quake, then we can talk. This is rapidly becoming a stupid flame war so in the interest of keeping the list on-topic, I won't be replying publically to this thread from now on. ;) I *do* have some performance figures, as Intel has had the silicon for over six months now, but, of course, Intel being Intel, their lawyers keep everything under a wrap for now. Pat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message