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Date:      Wed, 2 Aug 2000 19:49:01 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Archie Cobbs <archie@whistle.com>
Cc:        Charles Mott <cmott@scientech.com>, Erik Salander <erik@whistle.com>, net@FreeBSD.ORG, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>, Eivind Eklund <perhaps@yes.no>
Subject:   Re: Improved PPTP support for libalias(3)
Message-ID:  <20000802194901.D36141@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <200008021625.JAA81509@bubba.whistle.com>; from archie@whistle.com on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 09:25:13AM -0700
References:  <20000802112458.B38876@sunbay.com> <200008021625.JAA81509@bubba.whistle.com>

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On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 09:25:13AM -0700, Archie Cobbs wrote:
> Ruslan Ermilov writes:
> > > > > Is this a limitation of a specific server implementation, or
> > > > > a limitation of the PPTP standard?
> > > > 
> > > > It's simply a limitation in our address translation module for PPTP. 
> > > > There's nothing implied wrong with the standard itself or the server
> > > > implementation.
> > > > 
> > > > This limitation could be eliminated with more coding, but it's
> > > > somewhat ugly (you have to make two TCP streams appear as one).
> > > 
> > > Sorry, I may have misinterpreted your question...
> > > 
> > > It is inherent in the PPTP standard that there be at most ONE
> > > PPTP TCP control connection between any two IP addresses.
> > > 
> > > If you think about it for a second you can see why: when a machine
> > > receives a GRE packet, it identifies the call using the pair
> > > <sourceIP, CallID>. That means that there can be at most ONE entity
> > > living at sourceIP doling out CallID's for calls to the local
> > > machine/IP address.. otherwise CallID's would not be guaranteed
> > > to be unique.
> >
> > This is all right, except libalias(3) is supposed to intercept
> > outgoing PPTP call requests messages and alias CallID to be unique,
> > see AliasHandlePptpOut().
> 
> Sorry, I don't understand your point... libalias already does this fine,
> that's not the problem.
> 
> The problem is that two internal clients connecting to the same
> external server at the same time will result in two TCP connections
> to the same server seeming to come from the same IP address, which
> violates the protocol.
> 
Sorry, I misinterpreted your explanation.  But I still do not understand
why there is such a limitation in PPTP, can you see any sense here?

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