From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 21:18:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F5D16A41C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:18:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED0943D48 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:18:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j6ALJob27052; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:19:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Garrett Cooper" , Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:18:32 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <42D0EAE9.3050704@u.washington.edu> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: suitability of freebsd 5.3 for 486 dx2 66? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:18:47 -0000 $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 50350 37954 8368 82% / /dev/ad0s1e 436206 178144 223166 44% /usr procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc $ uname -a FreeBSD xxx.xxxxx.com 4.10-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE #0: Tue May 25 22:47:12 GMT 2004 root@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $ Granted, it's FBSD 4.10 not 4.11, but they are similar enough. As I said, it is just in knowing how to set it up. One of the keys is not installing /usr/ports. While the ports system is great for setting things up fast, it is a space hog. If you download and compile the utilities by hand, it uses a lot less space, plus you learn how the system actually works as opposed to learning how to flip switches on a black box. I use /usr/ports quite a lot but I didn't when I was learning. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Garrett Cooper >Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:31 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: suitability of freebsd 5.3 for 486 dx2 66? > > >Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>This is fine for FreeBSD 4.11, yes it will take a long >>time to build a kernel, but not more than 24 hours. You >>also get some valuable lessons in space planning on a >>hard disk. >> >>The original PDP-11 only had 64k (that's k, not meg) of >>ram I believe. >> >>Ted >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Cecil >>>Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:16 AM >>>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>Subject: suitability of freebsd 5.3 for 486 dx2 66? >>> >>>I plan on running a 486 I found laying around as a >>>freebsd box. It only has a floppy, and yes, it's a >>>486. It does have 500 meg hard disk and 20 megs of ram >>>though. Any ideas as to what is realistic to expect >>>out of this machine? I plan to run it as a CLI box >>>only to learn perl, python, C++ and some other stuff >>>on. >>> >>>Xeys >>> >>> > Good luck fitting everything on there. You can get FreeBSD on 250 >maybe, but that's just the base system. After installing Python/any GNU >stuff or sources, you may run into disk space issues. Then again, you >can plan on having your swap slice being small (~50 Mb if you wish). >Email me personally, if you want any DRAM because I have some laying >around that you might want from a 486 ;). >-Garrett >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >