From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Aug 17 07:20:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA27468 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 07:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dg-rtp.dg.com (dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com [128.222.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA27451 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 07:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dg-rtp.dg.com (5.4R3.10/dg-rtp-v02) id AA23166; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:20:09 -0400 Received: from ponds by dg-rtp.dg.com.rtp.dg.com; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:20 EDT Received: from lakes.water.net (lakes [10.0.0.3]) by ponds.water.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18809; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 09:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.water.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA09635; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:06:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199608171406.KAA09635@lakes.water.net> To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl, ponds!uriah.heep.sax.de!joerg_wunsch Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.7.5 issues (the sendmail in FreeBSD 2.1.5.) Cc: ponds!FreeBSD.org!freebsd-hackers, ponds!rivers Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > As J Wunsch wrote... > > > > As Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > > > > What did I discover? There's no way to tell sendmail to not use > > > DNS (it will be fixed in a "future" version.) > > > > That's wrong. It's sometimes useful to read FAQs. ;-) > > > > You've already noticed that i'm using a fairly similar setup like you > > (mail via UUCP, though in my case without the ugly bang :), dialup IP > > connection occasionally, local DNS). So it's not surprising that i've > > been confrontated with a similar set of problems once. > > I also use UUCP. But: when I'm occasionally connected using PPP then > you *do* see a DNS lookup and a direct SMTP to the outside world when > sending mail. If PPP is down everything goes into the uucp queue as > planned. The FEATURE(nodns) therefore does not eliminate DNS lookups > altogether which is probably what Thomas expects (and I agree I suppose) > Well - that's very similar to my situation, but not quite... What I have is a small network of 5 machines which I would like to direct mail to a mail router. The mail router (or smart-host) needs to use SMTP to talk to the local network, and UUCP for everything else. Also, the mail router will sometimes be connected to the internet (which is what motivated the DNS work), so it would be nice if the router could deliver things via the internet "when it could", as you suggest above. So, when I installed the new version of sendmail, and I sent mail on one of the interiour nodes - I discovered that no matter what I did, the interiour node always queued the mail it was to send to the router, waiting on DNS. The only way I found to fix it (I believe now we have determined others) was to rebuild sendmail with DNS look-ups disabled. Prior to this version of sendmail, the absence of the 'I' option caused it to not use DNS. I'm continuing to look into exactly how to set this up... - Dave Rivers - p.s. As an aside - my account says "Thomas David Rivers" - but it's a Southern U.S. tradition to use your middle name, please call me "Dave" :-) Now, your first question should be "Why did that fool put his entire name in the gecos field if he wants us to call him 'Dave'?" Good question! It goes back to the legal issues, problems with banks, etc... so, I always use my full name in anything remotely "official."