From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 21:37:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E75B1065670; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E498FC13; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwk4 with SMTP id 4so1710525wwk.1 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=epw6VRAca+HdfWwPLN66Qs+AEREXLwkikrnMcfv4Vc8=; b=UTjlAjUQwo/Udhxf0YAd5tLgdUy/VfVj0a4e6NgkZU/oqNEn1+bQ78W/QiP6IffQ20 hODyXx2eXctPE1R2LLeDEFtCagSjsvj3gB7Tic5TPWnEnW5T19CxDdzd/+jfk1GEUUDZ k8skNaAh6g19d6AM8IdBHuCHTTmRVgIlvIreE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=sNnJZrvnKM1UK26J3hm9G2NR0bO77cTf4jL7h1cbahy7qt1GJ643GJoGOF5qxTxCGx tpIk971gyCwCwIg3PydTWXMRhxHjoutQFIqheS39M8AOWaiedTPAWNLMGWgdhLpTiiDC JY1HrS4Q2Xsr6GCFKWncQ0NJB2MMql1hy1Qa4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.230.99 with SMTP id i77mr1527530weq.100.1300484231504; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: yanegomi@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.173.142 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D617713.1010705@dougbarton.us> References: <201102162123.p1GLN9f9084297@svn.freebsd.org> <4D6065B4.7040709@p6m7g8.com> <4D606FEB.6070806@dougbarton.us> <4D61461E.3000406@p6m7g8.com> <4D617713.1010705@dougbarton.us> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:11 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6-aQAbDYZBzclq0REVLbOlZEgsA Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: Doug Barton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "Philip M. Gollucci" , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r218753 - head/etc/namedb X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:37:13 -0000 On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 2/20/2011 8:49 AM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >> >> On 2/19/2011 8:35 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >>> >>> On 02/19/2011 16:52, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2/16/2011 4:23 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Author: dougb >>>>> Date: Wed Feb 16 21:23:09 2011 >>>>> New Revision: 218753 >>>>> URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/218753 >>>>> >>>>> Log: >>>>> =A0 =A0Remove in-addr.arpa from the list of zones it is possible to s= lave >>>>> locally >>>> >>>> This is b/c of the recent change to fix the list of root servers that >>>> serve this right ? >>> >>> Not precisely. in-addr.arpa has moved to its own set of servers operate= d >>> jointly by the RIRs and ICANN. At some point in the near future this >>> zone will no longer be available directly from the root servers at all. >> >> We said the same thing, just I said it badly. > > Sorry to be pedantic, but it's for a (hopefully) good reason. People ofte= n > refer to any servers high up in the tree as "the root servers for ..." Th= ere > is actually only one set of root servers, the ones that serve the actual > root zone. For hysterical raisins these servers also served ARPA, and > IN-ADDR.ARPA. A little bit better job was done with IP6.ARPA to start wit= h > so it was the first to move from one set of servers managed by the RIRs a= nd > ICANN to a different set that are similarly named in order to take advant= age > of name compression in the DNS packet. IN-ADDR.ARPA is the next to move b= oth > for compression purposes, and to get the zone off the roots. > > So, not to pick on you here, my purpose is simply to clarify that they di= d > not change "the list of root servers," they actually changed the delegati= on > of IN-ADDR.ARPA to its own set of name servers. > > I should probably add that while it's technically possible, it's highly > unlikely that ARPA itself will move off the roots. The zone is very small= , > and very static; and that is incredibly unlikely to change any time in th= e > near future. The IN-ADDR and IP6.ARPA zones on the other hand are both > larger, and more dynamic (although IN-ADDR is going to be changing less a= nd > less as time goes on). Looks like this happened sometime in the last while because now I'm not getting NXDOMAIN errors after removing this entry when trying to run host on a machine in my network :). Doesn't fix my syslogd issue though (still debugging >o<...).. Thanks! -Garrett