From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 6 17:43:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66AA16A4E1 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 17:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3393043D45 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 17:43:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.63 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1G9meZ-0003tT-MJ by authid ; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:43:07 +0300 Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 20:43:07 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: BSD Guy Message-ID: <20060806174307.GA67635@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , BSD Guy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060301054439.41643.qmail@web37415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060301054439.41643.qmail@web37415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message, where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.12 (2006-07-14) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rebooting and crashes on dell server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 17:43:14 -0000 I had a very similar experience with a Dell PowerEdge 2800 recently, not even 3 weeks have elapsed! The problem, as we realized from some Dell engineer, was with the firmware on the mobo of this model. I was running FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE on the box. I bought HP ML350, migrated the whole setup to it and no problems even as I speak now! I am still waiting for a replacement motherboard from Dell (local vendor) for the 2800. There is a Dell 2850 that I setup as a server for a client, using FreeBSD 5.2.1. It's been running rock solid, and the only update I ever did was to update it to 5.2.1-patch14, which it will never go beyond, as I see no need. So, the moral of the story? Put the Dell aside, get a good HP and sit easy. * On 28/02/06 21:44 -0800, BSD Guy wrote: | Theres alot to this problem, but I'll try to be | concise so I don't loose people. I started out with a | cheap dell server running scsi raid and 5.x It | crashed or locked up with a kernel panic in a | different process (everything, syslog, you name it) | ever few days. I swapped ram around figuring it was | at fault since it was bought used on ebay. Still no | luck. | | Tired of messing with it, I bought a new dell | poweredge 2650, with scsi raid, a couple gigs of ram, | duals, and just a new system, configured it, copied | user data over and switched to it. Sure enough still | the worst stability I've ever seen. It has dual power | supplies, each in a different UPS. I don't believe | power is the problem or I'd see similar problems on | the other server or router I have plugged in there. I | even upgraded to 6.0-Release-p1 but no luck. | | It panics from time to time, but usually now it just | randomly reboots. Often at least every 36 hours. | Often 2-3 times a few minutes apart when it does. I | did install a debug kernel 2 weeks ago to try to get a | crash dump, but no panic's since then. | | My make.conf is pretty simple: | KERNCONF=crapbox | CPUTYPE?=p4 | CFLAGS= -O -pipe | NO_BLUETOOTH= true # do not build Bluetooth | related stuff | NO_I4B= true # do not build isdn4bsd package | NO_LPR= true # do not build lpr and related | programs | NO_GAMES= true # do not build games (games/ | subdir) | MAKE_IDEA= YES # IDEA (128 bit symmetric | encryption) | # added by use.perl 2005-09-29 11:26:41 | PERL_VER=5.8.7 | PERL_VERSION=5.8.7 | | Its not all that stressed of a box: | load averages: 0.14, 0.07, 0.06 | Mem: 235M Active, 367M Inact, 160M Wired, 33M Cache, | 99M Buf, 81M Free | Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free | | I've tweaked all the kernel values mentioned in the | tuneable section of the manual, but the reboots | continue. The box runs radiator (a perl based radius | server), apache+mod_ssl-1.3.x with php5, postfix-2.2, | amavisd-new-2.3, courier-imap-4.0, pure-ftp, nrpe | (nagios), net-snmp, ssh, and bind 9.3.1 all from ports | (except radiator). | | I run the same mail server setup on another server | with no problem, although it processes far less mail. | I use radiator on another server with no problem. | This is a unique combination of packages I'm running, | but no unique programs or configurations to this | server. Between amavis and radiator it does alot of | perl, and everything is a mysql lookup to another | server. While all logic and experience points to a | hardware problem I feel like the complete hardware | replacement has pretty much laid the blame on | software. | | I'm open to any suggestion as to what I might need to | look at to clear this up. I'm about to have a nervous | breakdown and insteall debian in desperation heh. I've | tried a kernel without smp, I've tried disabling acpi | on boot. If you need any more information feel free | to ask for it, I'll happily provide it. | Thanks! | | __________________________________________________ | Do You Yahoo!? | Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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