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Date:      Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:52:56 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        <alpha@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Hammer (fwd)
Message-ID:  <20011026115226.S68844-100000@wonky.feral.com>

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Interesting discussion on Linux list... I've heard that Hammer has legs...


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:51:53 -0600
From: Maurice Hilarius <maurice@harddata.com>
Reply-To: axp-list@redhat.com
To: axp-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Hammer

With regards to your message at 12:30 PM 10/26/01, Peter Watkinson. Where
you stated:

>OK we've seen about Itanium and how much that costs how about the AMD Hammer
>what I've heard is that it should debut in 1H 02 and be clocked at about
>2ghz. Will it run x86 linux out of the box or will it need it's own
>distribution? Has anyone any idea what it will cost? Does anyone know what
>the projected Spec or other Benchmark figures are?
>
>Now that Alpha seems to be swimming with the fishes we'll have to consider
>the alternatives and Hammer seems to me like it has the most similarity to
>the Alpha  - or maybe it just appeals because it's not made by Intel!

http://www2.amd.com:80/us-en/Processors/DevelopWithAMD/0,,30_2252_875,00.html

http://www.x86-64.org/%22%20target=%22new%22

And, most importantly:
http://www.x86-64.org/downloads

Where you will find the following good info, and lots of downloads:

" AMD SimNow! Simulator
Here's what all you kernel hackers have dreamed of: an x86 system
simulator running under GNU/Linux!  The simulated system contains
an x86-64 technology-enabled chip, RAM, disks, and VGA.  You can
single-step the
CPU, peek at registers and memory, and lots of other fun stuff.
For now, you can only run 32-bit GNU/Linux because SimNow x86-64 does not
support the swapgs instruction that is used by the 64-bit Linux kernel
port.  But, you can play with 64-bit mode, and you can debug those pesky
32-bit kernel bugs without having to
hard-boot your hardware all the time.
The simulator is only available as a binary RPM because it contains some
proprietary code. RPMs are available for SuSE 6.4 and Red Hat 6.2
systems.  The simulator was written by AMD
and ported to GNU/Linux by CodeSourcery.
Note: We expect an update of SimNow that supports the complete x86-64
instruction
set so that you can use the x86-64 Linux kernel on it."

Have fun!


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