From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 20:06:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1393C1065670 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB9D68FC14 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79240 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2009 20:06:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=r1DrO64DbPwgq/Z9uu2OUaT/SY0/M6qBBngNLsIGZ0xbagkY1TT6foZoSkbrO5QkFWjXku6URfxSx+jmgJbtMUwHfxQv/sPnraCUXUUlCMmKZ+LEIrqn3AEujgyiJG2PmSwxvGnxrYNXKA6kdj54emvRA6Tl83sHQx0mLeg8Bks= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2009 12:06:40 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: QQ.DiN0VM1lKXMwEalHI3M9ASVKSYp0ZMTGmoOkHFbsji68RbZwHNS3HcHAcQcUZVtuTE8jKmynI8xBWhafpNVQbeTdXXa5htO0MvL1mrDn4iIklQZwg.dd2xH3ii2QtOhXZ4xtPAkYq17ZJ7_dcK_m8vrwa80ULHCZQMtrW.yyBvHyUc0QrfV6OJinUYSf7iYhSK9gIpayxXffYOQefIZ1gPCEb7y33ASFu5e6d_MAcUVDzNU51MmSI6L6mMfckTo3b._Dz6RYTzOoxVREWVXd4RDzyDJKBYFNrqJgfyOEBZRb4KP7H36zl0YYE X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F086228B1 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:06:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:06:39 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091210150639.2da33de4@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <200912101921.nBAJLQf1077338@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <20091210184502.30fce047@ernst.jennejohn.org> <200912101921.nBAJLQf1077338@fire.js.berklix.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.4; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:06:42 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:26 +0100 Julian H. Stacey replied: >> Fortuantely, I had no problem setting up a "black" FreeBSD box to >> preserve my sanity. > >A tip for those threatened with no BSD box at work: >FreeBSD runs fine _inside_ a box that looks like a multi sheet scanner. >OK, slow, but invisible to managers who require MS only. > >These scanners often lie abandoned in company junk rooms (& cheap >on web), as people know they used to need MS's abandoned NT (= Not >There) operating system. Well they do ... until one installs BSD. >Credit to David M. who did the FreeBSD work. Pictures of hardware >to look for in junk rooms: http://www.berklix.com/scanjet/ > >Cheers, >Julian Out of pure morbid curiosity, would you please answer this question for me. You work for a corporation that specifically requires the use of a specific OS, the OS itself is not material to this question. It also forbids the use of any unauthorized OS or equipment on the companies network. You decide to ignore their directives and eventually: 1) Get caught 2) Cause a problem with the company's network, etc. Now, when you get fired and possible charged with a crime, do you: 1) Cry and bitch that they are being unfair? 2) Accept the fact that you deserved to be dismissed? Where I use to work, two or three employees were fired each year because they thought they knew more than everyone else. They failed to realize that they were being compensated to do what they were told and not what they thought they should be doing. The bottom line is if they are not smart enough to follow company directives, they are certainly not capable of instigating their own protocol. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | Grandpa Charnock's Law: You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive. [I thought it was when your kids learned to drive. Ed.]