From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 16 18:46:04 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872A62F9FFA for ; Sat, 16 May 2020 18:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49PZ3t6dKkz3NNw for ; Sat, 16 May 2020 18:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.31.138]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MdNoW-1j0y391Gka-00ZRxq; Sat, 16 May 2020 20:45:55 +0200 Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 20:45:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "@lbutlr" Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life Message-Id: <20200516204553.a317afe4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <355B9AC5-84F8-48A3-ABD2-14B43AECC9D7@kreme.com> References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> <20200218091959.b0220ac75bcfbbced91a5708@sohara.org> <355B9AC5-84F8-48A3-ABD2-14B43AECC9D7@kreme.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:pSzCyeRXUvfeBQokVX+mLDcuKLWjpotVp1Si+hkojoCqemKLns+ /3IMQGyw64meMEnGRk1zupBOBthicHXxGcukfhI8n+uh/Eo0HTYYOZCCTEK13mQq0pfcg5r N18S9wpX4lxJP4+3eF0aKOAv9GMsyvnoPo672yHCkSXPP7JY+/fhajsBi/J9U3Si4ZVRO3V PMfHHAJpTmzQzqGiYFMJA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:+Sfj+lQ3yrg=:4KhbIx2moKb0dvICJ2P6Qz LY4F+6oCz6UWPNZmWU8QGnZ0lM4w49/OzKbdWy/aal9iUj5TL5GrD8uQzJkYtBCxHc1B1c0BJ nZFpWAzz6ONAY5mfZYxuxg//MwFJZ8/BgDrYRW27CX3YT0xwC0NARkhONmjwmy57/pDIMrgfX +LhJJyr9zRphtzbyXQpYHbVuItvnLkQAzCQUbLt8/jDPFJgHsYICkkC1iYDSQ6QaHfoNUmEj/ mfQwvDl6uzq8CwEacyMeMLzyKr/kuX67kFBr6onZdbGeK129EG8x99HLW1ZdrO3QsBuQFKA8H +vlanfr56jx+Cwip1uKVqj/UEqPxWJVxtt5s9vwSpCn+MSHYkuDDy0Wve7zaajvjsPNZG5e91 DlIxjEjbCP+0XQMAkKfZ5WaAgpnuNq3YAEitz/guMbJuRmzAWcK3nPSGk4rABt6INzVIxSclb 9NEQkMuv8oTruGhoktFrTCkr7iojWvJX8qb6uV6acQ6WASPRfE13QooMU5T0aB1rMp61RkSYj ASi8IKWxktRjEJMuIh4QBj7YKSPwA3ocIBvh8Wvufdv5XRYxsGqvsYc2lm4PRO2FhH3QcqST6 B8QGhi3Td6xgOvVZJhQm77jmTkTOymZ6fxbxiowbe0Us9WC8cqG7qVVLG3AV419UJ6X72WD4p tbI0IYXzkfwN2eOl1izoUvGIr0Xc47n/6q2koNbFQaqE45DMN4bgZPi7l6SfESHsUOP37Sj84 iSelit9E25DH71JInfpOkc9Z48IKl5gHxd3LlQjA/t7TQgsvb2Di+HEyo+lDEc5N5GiBUN7HY 7SIAgPxHqQDOloRO5et/JiCcY6hmwXbR8+uZMejV6ilDW3nX+Wpbl4tZtuX0G/OlG9/EzXe X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49PZ3t6dKkz3NNw X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.130) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.81 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[138.31.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_NEUTRAL(0.00)[130.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.13]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.97)[0.973,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[130.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.44)[ip: (1.44), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.20), asn: 8560(1.99), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 18:46:04 -0000 On Sat, 16 May 2020 12:07:30 -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > On 19 Feb 2020, at 01:52, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions wrote: > > To a beginner and uninitiated like me, the way FreeBSD labels > > "stable", "release", "releng" and "current" is, at the very least, > > confusing. > > It might be sensible to have a prominent note along the lines > of “If you are wondering what to run, -RELEASE is the answer.” > > Because, really, anyone who wants stable or current should know > why they do. And how. > I agree the names are not the best. That is true; however there are historical reasons for the names, and their meaning is documented: In chapter 23 of The FreeBSD Handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html And: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-releng/article.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-proc.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...