From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 25 20: 1:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha.net.au (mail2.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A30F37B69E for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 20:01:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyh@idx.com.au) Received: from freebsd.freebsd.org (surry-pool-207.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.207] (may be forged)) by mail.alpha.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA31432; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:00:57 +1000 From: Danny To: Kristoph Yates , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why does PORTS SUCK so BADLY!? Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:06:29 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain References: <3905F045.9060804@wspice.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00042713071401.00383@freebsd.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How can mannually collecting the dependicies for RPMs be any better than ports do ing it automatically for you. without user intervention. On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Kristoph Yates wrote: > Hi, > > That is my question.  It seems the idea behind ports is trapped in the > 70's.  They hardly work and many times get errors about "file not found" > or something equally annoying.. so I have to go in and screw with it "by > hand" which is no problem for me.. but the newbies are another story. > > Once I ran make lynx and it said I had to have X11 installed.  What a > crock.. another fine example is openssl ...  It wants the useless RSAREF > crap.  What a crock!  What does Satoshi Asami have to say about the > disorganization of the ports collection?  When will FreeBSD come up with > something more reliable?  Yes, I cvsup'd the latest ports as of about a > week ago. > > The only reason I would like to see ports be more reliable is because I > have lots-o-people that want to run *nix.. so I recommend to them > FreeBSD.  If ports were more reliable, I would spend less time on the > phone/net helping people install stuff on their FreeBSD boxes.   So far, > the easiest solution is to tell them to try Linux.  rpm --install > blahblahblah seems to work better for newbies than depending on the > ports and these folks are pretty brainless when it comes to installing  > things "by hand ", the "old fashioned way". > > Any info would be appreciated.  Please respond via email as I am not > subscribed to the list. > thanks, > kyates@wspice.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message