From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 28 11:28:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2B516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:28:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torrent.cc.mcgill.ca (torrent.cc.mcgill.ca [132.206.27.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FDB43D5C for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:28:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mat@cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: from mailscan1.cc.mcgill.ca (mailscan1.CC.McGill.CA [132.216.77.248])j3SBSGCo019543; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:28:17 -0400 Received: from cube.cnd.mcgill.ca (cube.CND.McGill.CA [132.216.25.196]) j3SBS88P011541; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (acid.cnd.mcgill.ca [132.216.11.151]) by cube.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SBRvuI020223; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:27:58 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (acid [127.0.0.1]) j3SBRviv015504; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:27:57 -0400 Received: (from mat@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j3SBRt5h015503; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:27:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:27:54 -0400 From: Mathew Kanner To: Alexander Leidinger Message-ID: <20050428112754.GB14507@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <20050306171027.GE4237@cnd.mcgill.ca> <20050306184416.5603976c@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20050307030419.GC951@kt-is.co.kr> <20050308.121415.847025091.kazuhito@ph.noda.tus.ac.jp> <426F409D.6010007@elischer.org> <426F4280.9030206@elischer.org> <426F49C3.1020009@elischer.org> <20050427184115.GC11709@cnd.mcgill.ca> <20050428110656.wqnp94nnwosc80ck@netchild.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050428110656.wqnp94nnwosc80ck@netchild.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Organization: I speak for myself, operating in Montreal, CANADA cc: FreeBSD Multimedia cc: Julian Elischer cc: Mathew Kanner Subject: Re: uaudio patch, X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:28:23 -0000 On Apr 28, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Mathew Kanner wrote: > > > This patch is no consistent with then rest of sound. You will > >notice that with my pending uaudio caps patch that I add this > >information in boot_verbose which is where it belongs. > > I still don't understand why this belongs into the dmesg instead of > sndstat... > > In my eyes it would be nice if every soundcard would list the features it > offers in sndstat. This not only consists of it's capabilities, it also > should list SPDIF output, EAX and so on (either when we gain support for > those features, or with an explicit "not supported" text). I think this > would be more userfriendly than printing this in the dmesg on verbose boot > only. I realise I'm the only one whose taken this position so I'll withdraw it. But for the record, this is my reasoning, what the heck are you going to do with this informaiton: it doesn't help you. Other interesting but often usesless information is printed in boot_verbose. The listed capablities are often way beyound what our sound interface can offer. If you want to know what avaiable then connect to the sound device and issue an ioctl like every other app. Anyway, as a general concept, I think we should start expanding our using sysctls. I've rerolled the uaudio caps patch to be compatible with this commit and I've sent it off the Julian, hopefully we can commit it asap. thi --Mat