From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 3 03:43:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B866CBC5 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 03:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CACB7F for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 03:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s333hStl076723 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:43:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s333hSul076720; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:43:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:43:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Torbjorn Granlund Subject: Re: Downplaying a serious issue In-Reply-To: <861txffcgh.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> Message-ID: References: <861txffcgh.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 02 Apr 2014 21:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 03:43:30 -0000 On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > I notice that you seriously downplay the filesystem malfunctioning issue > of FreeBSD/i386 10.0 (and its many betas). Do we? What should it say? Please be specific, preferably in the form of a PR. Is this really a doc problem? > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/errata.html > > This is not specific to some weird hardware. It is not specific to > virtualbox. As I have reported (and been shouted down) it happens under > KVM and Xen. It happens under Xen+Linux as well as Xen+NetBSD. Please post links to those reports. > FreeBSD is becoming strange. I've been using every release since 1.1, > and have liked it. Now it is unstable, critical bug reports are > ignored, serious problems are being downplayed, the compiler is > terrible. Did Apple money corrupt a great project? If you have had rude treatment from someone in the project, I apologize. Insulting and accusing the rest of us is not likely to produce good results. Most of us are volunteers, and hard enough to motivate even without resentment.