From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 17 1:29:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE9237B41A for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 01:29:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fBH9TfR15422; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:29:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <001101c186dd$5ab94430$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Terry Lambert" Cc: "f.johan.beisser" , "FreeBSD Chat" References: <20011216112759.U16958-100000@localhost> <002f01c1866e$1e4d9510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C1DB7EB.9232204A@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: UNIX on the Desktop (was: Re: Why no Indians and Arabs?) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:29:39 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry writes: > Are you aware that most of the Windows > design, from the 1.0 version onward, was > based on HP VUE(tm), including the function > key bindings (ALT-F4 to close, etc.)? I am now, but that has no effect on my statement. UNIX was designed as a multiuser, text-based, server timesharing system; Windows and the Mac were designed as single-user, GUI-based, desktop systems. It should be self-evident that the latter would naturally tend to fit into the desktop environment better than the former. > This is actually a minus, since credential > domains are a significant barrier to having > your system "owned", aqnd contain damage when > the worst does happen (crackers, virus, worms, > etc.). The worst rarely happens, and most desktop users prefer convenience to security. Insofar as they limit this to the desktop, there is little reason not to indulge them. > Actually, you probaqbly weren't there for > Windows through 95 ... I was there for all versions of Windows. > Lindows. MacOS X. I'm talking about UNIX and Windows/Mac (the conventional Mac OS), not hybrids. > The ability to perform "point-and-click" for > trivial administrative tasks (such as minimal > firewall installation, or minimal mail server > configuration) far, far outweighs "raw power" > in most cases. Point-and-click gets very tiring very quickly when you have to do a lot of system administration, especially at a distance. Just modifying a text file can be a lot faster and simpler. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message