From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 07:52:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08B91065679 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:52:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bunchou@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556148FC1C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so34029bwz.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:52:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yg3/ZDohzL4tCjdQPBZqAjcwPOXJIo41OH3V7y7AlY8=; b=R3mvMmgDb5lUdg4HqKhJpKdMZkB7pmUzzH8GiKeRHBzXi9P782AYvd4KjJXoeQxDl/ pnmpgSn74d2t2rEC4qTLpRGgCZmunc/+z6bKy53Z05zPgwNZPE39Hz/5Qlx91tp3coPL 4GQLUYQV9C3SmlO3lhNOmwt8uKq6qVtlVvspo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sXO/ll2tZVBl9wvMr8rlWIM4NyscaiEhX9ewG0JDVowkmd+mlwG2Xk3iuUqTMAYWs7 z+AmuH/+M3t2UYNpQEmDxPUahtbM8SEmZR58l8IpGArIHcxsT9p0UXTdeLsfKHS3L/pv UzacynElWkbMrZeJmG13liptOEeqmv6DT9tK0= Received: by 10.204.115.203 with SMTP id j11mr8732756bkq.147.1280389931085; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centaur.5550h.net (p5DC266ED.dip.t-dialin.net [93.194.102.237]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a9sm395288bky.11.2010.07.29.00.52.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:52:07 +0200 From: "=?UTF-8?B?5paH6bOl?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100729095207.6a75d963@centaur.5550h.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:52:13 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:55:04 -0600 Dale Scott wrote: > Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the > Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, > Wendy andHotStuff. However, I also accept there are individuals who > understand these symbols differently than me, and that I may be > alienating them to my detriment. It seems consumer products need to > be mindful of cultural differences, is FreeBSD=C2=A0different? A larger > community and increased OS market share wouldn't be all that bad, > would it? >=20 > I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal > conflict with the mascot or logo, band together and propose a > complementary alternate symbol. I don't mean flooding the mail list > (it's obvious we can do that on our own), I'm talking about difficult > time-consuming organization, lobbying, and support gathering. For me, > I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first and legacy mascot - but > I also wouldn't object to one or two more officially sanctioned > mascots and logos either.=20 >=20 > Dale Scott >=20 Personally, I tried to stay out of this conversion (because it's OT and I find all religions annoying). But, anyway, IIRC, the reason why our nice little beastie is no longer the official FreeBSD logo, is the sentiments you just mentioned. There was a discussion about this years ago on one of the mailing lists (I don't remember which one anymore), which resulted in a contest, and the result is the horned ball logo you find on the top of www.freebsd.org. This is also the reason why we have to add 'beastie_disable=3D"NO"' to /boot/loader.conf after a fresh install now. So, please, refrain from calling for yet another new logo. Best regards =E6=96=87=E9=B3=A5