From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 15:33:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D5E16A501 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne_woerner@yahoo.com) Received: from web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B71DF43DC3 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:31:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arne_woerner@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 53720 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Sep 2006 15:31:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=O7JDfWazElzqzCepawpBIm3XG7g2p4rZxMh64m6NSTVxZb+4c89/JyjBvrexbCvarhkZL0nzBCTmEYwR8E4JbRyz+tFTwkHDE870KHw27oBCqdARUWlPFaRq8hCLhhezYk95Pqa2UNnW/4J8Ap+i+GecRSm2oQmMTq+TnGfbgnc= ; Message-ID: <20060907153123.53718.qmail@web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.54.79.79] by web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 08:31:23 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:31:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "R. B. Riddick" To: Bob Johnson In-Reply-To: <54db43990609070759u25e58d28t8d08c52c9df3c765@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Frank Steinborn Subject: Re: Getting GELI Keys from Floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:33:11 -0000 --- Bob Johnson wrote: > On 9/6/06, Barkley Vowk wrote: > > You are a complete madman. You want to protect your data with a key stored > > on the most completely and utterly unreliable form of data storage still > > lamentably in use? Its not the 1970's anymore, get a real data storage > > medium! > > > I have floppies from the 1980s that are still readable, but I have > never had a USB flash drive last more than six months when actually in > use. For important data, I trust a floppy far more than I trust a > flash drive. The big problem with floppies is they don't hold enough > data. For that matter, writeable CDs and DVDs have proven to be much > less reliable than floppies, too. > Furthermore Frank S. seems to plan to use a second kind of storage medium (mostly optical) as a backup... If he administrates his backup media thoroughly (exchange old media, re-do the backup, ...) he most likely will not have any problems... I personally currently store at least 3 copies of my papers, letters, testimonies and other files on DVD-RW. Furthermore I do a backup from my geom_mirror to a UFS on a regular partition every 10 minutes and from there a copy to DVD-RW every 10 days (I think it is unlikely that both hard disc crash within the same 3 hours (full-backup time), since they are from different manufacturers)... I wonder since several hours what is wrong with Mr. Barkley Vowk. Maybe that canadian university(?) has a security problem? or so? Or a problem with spelling? Mr. S. seems to be a GERman... -Arne --- "DYSLEXIA FOR CURE FOUND" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com