From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Nov 15 23:57:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE3B37B4E5 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 13wJuf-0005Jp-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:56:53 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA28614; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:57:01 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 28445; Thu Nov 16 09:55:56 2000 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13wJtj-0000Ho-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:55:55 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Will Andrews Cc: Terry Lambert , arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Turning on debugging in GENERIC In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:02:57 EST." <20001115180257.B26516@puck.firepipe.net> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:55:55 +0200 Message-ID: <1103.974361355@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:02:57 EST, Will Andrews wrote: > Um, Terry, are you even on bugs@ ? The fact of life is, many folks who > "try" -current that report bugs do not give enough details, so they in > return get vague suggestions like these. I'd like to clarify what Will said before we get led down astray by the people who're just mailing for the sake of mailing. The problem I often had with freebsd-bugs when I was very active there was that folks would catch a panic, send a backtrace with absolutely no debugging symbols and then move on. Often, these people were not prepared to try to reproduce the panic. If we had CURRENT's kernel default to including full debugging support, I think we'd get better results out of many of our bug reports. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message