From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 28 17:15:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6367A37B401 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from out001.verizon.net (out001pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CC243F43 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:15:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com ([129.44.43.227]) by out001.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20030129011550.WSDS23484.out001.verizon.net@mac.com> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:15:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3E372B46.30600@mac.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:15:50 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixit instructions References: <1043728084.3e3606d4a3b6a@webmail.adam.com.au> <15926.3781.54965.702684@guru.mired.org> <1043736426.3e36276aee60a@webmail.adam.com.au> <20030128130709.GA25877@gothmog.gr> <1043800649.3e372249b8066@webmail.adam.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1043800649.3e372249b8066@webmail.adam.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out001.verizon.net from [129.44.43.227] at Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:15:50 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG bastill@adam.com.au wrote: [ ... ] > Then - assuming you do not already know the answer (as obviously, I don't) > determine which of the documents would tell you how to use the Fixit disk. Imagine asking an piano teacher which keys on the piano you should press. One valid answer is "all of them". Another valid answer is "the right ones for the song you're playing". "You mean, which keys I have to type depends on which song I want to play?" The analogy only goes so far, but it's true that all of the Unix commands under /stand have been selected because they are what you probably would need to get a broken system working again. It's also true that which commands you should use depends on what you want to do. > BTW, Mike and Chuck gave info which is not accurate for v5 Release Disk2 (It's > OK for v4.6, except that /mnt2/usr/bin doen't exist) and apart from one O'Reilly > book which I shall seek out, they basically suggest simply that I read all the > man pages for the commands available in Fixit mode. Yes. There are worse places to start than reading the manpages, and the FreeBSD handbook attempts to be helpful. Some people even find that the handbook is a relatively good source of information. Another thought: my intent wasn't to provide you with information, so much as it was to suggest a process by which you could go looking for the information you're after. Using the fixit mode means you're solving something drasticly wrong with the system. Rote procedures often don't work when the system has problems. > FBSD has excellent documentation in so many areas that I find it VERY strange > that Fixit use is such an exception. I can't even get a description of the > Fixit structure or a list of all the commands available, other than by booting > from the Fixit CD and looking. That's odd. Are you familiar with the documentation provided for command-line mode or domain server recovery mode when booting recent M$ operating systems via their F8 boot menu? -Chuck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message