From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 16 05:35:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1112106564A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.zoral.com.ua (mx0.zoral.com.ua [91.193.166.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B25B8FC08 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q8G5ZZpJ047257; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:35:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8G5ZNNj026304; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:35:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q8G5ZNwB026303; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:35:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:35:23 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Eitan Adler Message-ID: <20120916053523.GJ37286@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wv56KCa6/aA7yLgk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fallout from the CVS discussion X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:35:29 -0000 --wv56KCa6/aA7yLgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 04:37:49PM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: Removing the whole CVS discussion above, want to answer to seemingly unrelated note in your email, which I see as continuing very disturbing trend. > However, -CURRENT is not meant to be a production system. It is simply not true. CURRENT shall never be knowingly put into a state where it cannot be used for the 'production-grade' use, whatever it means. We do accept changes are so disruptive that some unknown fallout is expected, since otherwise developers cannot make any significant progress. But introducing known breakage is simply not acceptable. Doing so shrinks the already limited testing base we have for HEAD. --wv56KCa6/aA7yLgk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlBVZRsACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4g+jACeK6zb71fv2yRNzMHKqhd3HSdq L/QAnikBrFEor43F9gSdQAjOu3Xm+0gU =5b1Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wv56KCa6/aA7yLgk--