From owner-freebsd-chat Mon May 28 14:54:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from messiah.megadeb.org (cpe.atm0-0-0-218131.arcnxx5.customer.tele.dk [62.242.79.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123B137B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chopra@runbox.com) Received: (from chopra@localhost) by messiah.megadeb.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4SLtst12973 for chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 28 May 2001 23:55:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from chopra) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:55:53 +0200 From: Munish Chopra To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The desktop apathy Message-ID: <20010528235553.G12149@messiah.megadeb.org> Mail-Followup-To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010527082742.049003f0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010527082742.049003f0@localhost> <20010527172838.A11174@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010528020324.0487b570@localhost> <20010528140153.A58103@h24-67-61-12.lb.shawcable.net> <001301c0e7b9$9771fd90$2d0101c0@headquarters.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001301c0e7b9$9771fd90$2d0101c0@headquarters.local>; from fredrik@speechcraft.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:03:04PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:03:04PM +0200, Fredrik Olausson wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > IMO, BSD/Linux don't have a cool desktop because no one has written one > > yet. But I think we will get there yet. > > While I like CDE in a sort of nostalgic way (thinking back to the days at > school...) I must say that KDE 2 is really getting places! I built it on my > Slackware box some weeks ago, and it is very good indeed. The graphics are > well done - not too much, but just enough - it is rather stable and > all-in-all a very nice environment to work in. I just got it precompiled for > FreeBSD the other day, so I'm going to install it on the big box soon :) > > I used to be (well... "am") a die-hard fvwm fan, but KDE feels like a > good-looking windows desktop now - it feels like a desktop you just sit down > at to do some work. I think "natural" is the word I'm looking for here. I have to agree here. After seriously working with both KDE and Gnome for the past way-too-long, KDE is moving to a generally usable stage much faster. It seems to be winning out on two big points: Speed (it's both fast _and_ snappy, which unfortunately can't be said for the latest Gnome), and Konqueror, which I guess is KDE's killer-app. I used to be more of a Gnome guy, but KDE is making leaps and bounds that are hard to ignore. Personally, I still 'feel the bloat' though. Luckily, the kdebase2 port removes a lot of that, but I guess I'm just not a Desktop Environment kind of guy. Simple window manager, and fast please (BlackBox anyone?). But KDE is promising less bloat and more speed, and since they seem to keep what they promise, I can't help but look forward to the next releases. -- -Munish To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message