From owner-freebsd-pf@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 12 12:37:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFB7106568E for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from salvador_d13@yahoo.com.ph) Received: from n15a.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n15a.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6720F8FC24 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from salvador_d13@yahoo.com.ph) Received: from [209.191.108.96] by n15.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2008 12:37:40 -0000 Received: from [209.191.119.183] by t3.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2008 12:37:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp106.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2008 12:37:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 767763.72512.bm@omp106.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 79687 invoked by uid 60001); 12 May 2008 12:37:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.ph; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=wXeAW7wW+b8G2+teJ3Fa2lYFebqKx/EOh+zx7Bkp2Jdt6V1ZMWjzeR7ylaKZjD37BJdfUKZUj3tcx2SgGTH5SxubuHaK2v5kxS+v7axDy3s1p5UroHMqOeM5ywhjqe+eMtg6Er5TROxz9R4an4RDL3P2yOGJysxzvCQgUaenpPI=; X-YMail-OSG: 9FTovVgVM1lVJGjdmDAUdbHgYeFiAbpNH2EPpPVQ Received: from [58.71.34.137] by web76106.mail.sg1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 May 2008 05:37:38 PDT Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 05:37:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Diego Salvador To: jille@quis.cx, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <680753.77770.qm@web76106.mail.sg1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Using ALTQ without PF in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion and general questions about packet filter \(pf\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:37:41 -0000 Hi Jille, Building a DiffServ domain network will require DiffServ Code Point (DSCP) values or bits for packet marking and re-marking for QoS. PF only supports Type-of-Service (TOS) bits. Thanks, Diego Salvador Diego Salvador wrote: > To Whom It May Concerned: > > Hi! Is it possible to use ALTQ in FreeBSD without PF? I know it is possibly to use ALTQ with IPFW (another firewall), > Because what I want to achieve is to build a QoS system/machine in a Diffserv or Intserv network > without firewall. It seems like ALTQ is tightly coupled with PF. But not whether you can use it entirely without any firewall. > I have read this > http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/altq.html that ALTQ integration in FreeBSD > is in PF-Mode not in COMPAT Mode? Can someone elaborate the difference > between these types of modes? The info describes FreeBSD-5, Is it still > affecting FreeBSD-6.2/6.3 and FreeBSD-7.0 releases? In NetBSD, ALTQ > can be used without PF or other means of firewall. Can't you enable PF, add some firewall rules that passes on all data, and apply the altq's ? afaik pf should not screw up your packets (if you leave all other stuff behind) -- Jille Diego Salvador wrote: To Whom It May Concerned: Hi! Is it possible to use ALTQ in FreeBSD without PF? Because what I want to achieve is to build a QoS system/machine in a Diffserv or Intserv network without firewall. It seems like ALTQ is tightly coupled with PF. I have read this http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/altq.html that ALTQ integration in FreeBSD is in PF-Mode not in COMPAT Mode? Can someone elaborate the difference between these types of modes? The info describes FreeBSD-5, Is it still affecting FreeBSD-6.2/6.3 and FreeBSD-7.0 releases? In NetBSD, ALTQ can be used without PF or other means of firewall. Thank you very much! Diego Salvador --------------------------------- Support Victims of the Cyclone in Myanmar (Burma). Donate Now. --------------------------------- Support Victims of the Cyclone in Myanmar (Burma). Donate Now.