From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 15:57:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55A716A41F; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:57:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from www.ebusiness-leidinger.de (jojo.ms-net.de [84.16.236.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D03743D45; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:57:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (p54A5F21E.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.242.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by www.ebusiness-leidinger.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jAJFWBG7090853; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:32:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from Magellan.Leidinger.net (Magellan.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.1]) by Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jAJFuVp5003481; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:56:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:56:31 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" Message-ID: <20051119165631.093b90b9@Magellan.Leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <13727.1132414598@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <20051119162854.2656096a@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <13727.1132414598@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Robert Watson , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, delphij@delphij.net, Brian Candler Subject: Re: Logical volume management X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:57:10 -0000 On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:36:38 +0100 "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: > In message <20051119162854.2656096a@Magellan.Leidinger.net>, Alexander Leidinge > r writes: > > >Not more than in the same situation with 2 or more "black boxes" > >instead of one... :-) > > That's actually not true. A major part of the rationale for having > the partitioning (ie: mount points) in the name space rather than the > block layer is to allow the administrator to partition his data > and thus limit calmity to the affected area. If you have a bug in any volume manager (integrated into the FS or not), you're busted in any case. The way ZFS does the VM part is more complex, and to err is human, so there's more potential to bust something. You can define more than one resource pool with ZFS, and as I did understand it, the pools are distinct. So if you assign disc1 and disc2 to poolA and disc3 and disc4 to poolB, and you assign just one FS to each pool, you still have the same separation like in vinum or g{mirror,raid3,stripe}. You just have a more complex distribution algorithm. Bye, Alexander. -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh, wait a minute, he already does. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7