From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Mar 8 15:32:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA22786 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.pu.ru (slip-0.pu.ru [193.124.85.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22700 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from VexedVox.stud.pu.ru (root@localhost) by gw.pu.ru (8.6.10/8.6.6) with UUCP id CAA02110 for FreeBSD.ORG!freebsd-hackers; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 02:27:35 +0300 Organization: SPb State University Received: (from root@localhost) by localhost (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA21388; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:35:45 +0300 From: Alexey Pialkin Message-Id: <199603080735.KAA21388@localhost> Subject: Re: direct access to video card To: uriah.heep.sax.de!joerg_wunsch@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:35:44 +0000 (WET) Cc: FreeBSD.ORG!freebsd-hackers@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru In-Reply-To: <199603080007.BAA18105@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Mar 8, 96 01:07:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > BTW, i am interesting in this too. I would like to use FreeBSD for some > > experiments in graphics and i _really_ don't whant to use 'X'.. > > 'X' are really slow on my 486/8... > > X does even run on my 386/16 with 5 MB. > > As long as you only want the functionality you've been describing, who > tells you that you gotta start ten xterms, a window manager, a > Netscape, and an Emacs? > X-s - are nice until i start to develop something :(( Looks like someone get 2-5 mb RAM from my computer :((( I believe that you can use dozens of xterms,Netscapes & so on on on 5 mb comp. -but i don't believe that all this will work fast :) > The Xserver itself and the application you're going to develop don't > eat up that much memory. If you're going to use a full-screen DGA 2 mb - X-s,and ?? mb my program :((( > application, you might even omit the window manager. For the extra > megabyte you're paying, you get support for several dozens of graphics > cards. Hmm.. I don't like X-s at all. May be they are nice for Netscaping - but in game/demo modeling they are zero. IMHO. -- Alexey Pialkin