From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 10 13:10:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEAA16A419 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B1013C474 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AB917104; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m0ADAKim090134; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:10:20 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:00:53 EST." <47861705.2030609@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:10:20 +0000 Message-ID: <90133.1199970620@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Dominic Fandrey Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:10:23 -0000 In message <47861705.2030609@gmail.com>, "Aryeh M. Friedman" writes: >> A lot of our users do this. We have many crucial FreeBSD >> developers employed at companies which understand that developer >> support is key to FreeBSDs future. >> >> We just need more of that. > >We also need to have better avenues for people who want to contribute >but do not have the economic means to subsidize there work from some >large company, gov. agency and/or university... i.e. there is no room >for independent people to contribute on a full time basis... We have never required anybody to have employment to participate in FreeBSD: If you're able and willing, you're welcome. >BTW as to the single sentence that would recitify this in the bsd >license it would be something as simple as: > > "Execution of covered work in any form may be conditioned to >payment fees (if any) and/or performing work in kind detailed at >http://......". No, no, no, NO & NO F**KING WAY! -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.