From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jan 26 15: 1:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ind.alcatel.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043E3152CE for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:01:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com (mailhub [198.206.181.70]) by ind.alcatel.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1 (ind.alcatel.com 3.0 [OUT])) with SMTP id PAA24437; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:01:17 -0800 (PST) X-Origination-Site: Received: from omni.xylan.com by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id PAA14194; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:01:16 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com (dyn0.utah.xylan.com [198.206.184.236]) by omni.xylan.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1 (Xylan engr [SPOOL])) with ESMTP id PAA24022; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:01:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <388F7DDD.EFB73428@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:06:05 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/13644 References: <388F3254.CF5F1C41@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > Wes Peters writes: > > > decision was made on the third day when I learned how to create a TAGS file > > and do tags-searches within Emacs. Two days later learning about Emacs > > built-in support for RCS and CVS really put the nail in vi's coffin. > > vi supports tags too. The tag-building program for vi comes in > FreeBSD's base install. Yes, it does. It just doesn't support multiple buffers nearly as well as Emacs, which makes the tags search a lot less useful. It also doesn't support flexible screen-splitting, which is how I use tags searches, and makes the vi feature useless to me. All of this should, of course, be directed to emacs-advocacy@emacs.org, but chat isn't too far off. ;^) > To me, the big advantages from emacs derive from the fact that all of > your text handling occurs in a single environment. That's not as > important now that cut-and-paste between X applications works well, > but touch-typists still get a big advantage from not needing to take > their hands off the keyboard. Cut and paste in X still tends to mangle tabs and such. vi and xterm make a workable environment, Emacs makes a better one. I'd love to see something better come along, but I've been waiting for that for a number of years. > And, of course, the fact that I can write new commands relatively > easily. And start using them inside the editor immediately. Yup. Plus all the various modes you can obtain to automagically do things; its kind of the original open source system. > Be well. I will, thank you, and you as well. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message