From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Thu Jan 14 17:56:53 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5114E9744; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DGsT14ypJz4hcJ; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1610647013; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=pOPZ5IPA9TW2/SR3K7Wr90JL6ZOMqJHbLABB2oZXep8=; b=TQlYsh66VdngJM2byP+3HT+HohvvGEVaJe9m0ZxWalU2ITiFrEM/XJf54XGa4gzirgyHP0 GlT/3eSSbMKE+rvW/piiYSPcS8/gSruM1XWdQhHaDXYNsDJWRaWpjKqDnMcEXsjQ9Jfio4 St+ORvBeMFTTgBjwXK06iqcC47jJ0DI1r4CBbQ/a4ezo0m76LJti0Vcq2aB/E/kWdlrRVJ PMMHichj6ulOinsVkUPg8kIErWq+5BsuxNDp3OM9F0uwjcyq7PRuc2tdpvtxkyxnsUEjFE SMaPohO3VLIEzlBKYmgYEbXnLW695LqVqAxRBiVU/kN/hBnBFie9+f7nwj9C5w== Received: from FreeBSD.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 278DD15490; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@freebsd.org) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:56:50 +0000 From: Glen Barber To: Kyle Evans Cc: src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-stable-12@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Release Engineering Team Subject: Re: svn commit: r365619 - in stable/12/sys: conf sys Message-ID: <20210114175650.GA5896@FreeBSD.org> References: <202009110004.08B04NNO072373@repo.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1610647013; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=pOPZ5IPA9TW2/SR3K7Wr90JL6ZOMqJHbLABB2oZXep8=; b=xV/VpQzia0LR+l/Vwl8n+ybApgPFlQtHVNGGrUvkQgu5PxBu91xwQTfvriF7qKQuwXYgaE vEi0D/u/KI1xrZ8/tkcuDr/p/PK8cImpWIFSmpFUmMne6l147CkD6fxWvgSzNUoclA3vQ5 HLhx1I4zb5bTJRBAgDxO/oj5ntfFl8NED4YvMMULz9yEpDKPu0HYpmqTJUcuTR7+O+9Yyr +5/vL+p2jkKZ75eFtDRtp6MXOAo/hrG+hjEFwHEcqKzVW7iYkvdgvOO0oCbXSZIqd01Ikc okcxdsmWobmWc4ps4sqJjwn6Cb0liCRVAYVWnjvob+Xlv0mqJG+JBE/YHIdKcQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1610647013; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=yHddp2ykc4ULXtxMfo5jW8x+PqHUOWrElN17LUjXK2hI+yjOdf8cc/v9OKs3DqM2s3COYB ZCIghHXCfxkilFnu1+2cF48gQBFVn9o2euA07Y+dIyQu0bWaf8nMXlaoj9Pgdu27XTFZDx TFPkUprs8KCeHC5rfF7QVW7vKT31RRPfeidLsB9xLR3WdhC65OI8GnepH7vr/6x08wN1Lj mj/ReFRnBRUmYeL+7+CNwWbM5cENKHMUyNVwKAnEuBx5HzhmObsIG4iIZFSxbulGd6IOEO 2gTsnl7sHcgSAw6vGpiqRWeyHRE+uf5/WgjqQSjYhQAii56/UwQsHRLXasYSyQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:56:53 -0000 --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 08:17:59AM -0600, Kyle Evans wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:04 PM Glen Barber wrote: > > > > Author: gjb > > Date: Fri Sep 11 00:04:23 2020 > > New Revision: 365619 > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365619 > > > > Log: > > Rename stable/12 to -STABLE, and bump __FreeBSD_version after > > releng/12.2 had been created. > > >=20 > I had wondered this before, and now I wonder again after a recent > pkgbase discussion about versioning schemes. Why do we rename stable > to -PRERELEASE at all? It's decidedly a (minor) downgrade to try to go > from -PRERELEASE to -RELEASE since anyone that manages to get a > -PRERELEASE build is still along -STABLE. >=20 I believe the rationale here was to avoid calling the branch -STABLE until (at least) the -RELEASE or -RC* came out. But, we do not have code freezes on head/main or stable branches anymore, so -PRERELEASE is a marker for "the cycle is in progress, but the releng branch has not necessarily been created yet." For 13.0, there will not be a -PRERELEASE. 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