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Date:      Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:38:44 +0100
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Eitan Adler <eadler@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.org, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org, svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.org, Ports Management Team <portmgr@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r307457 - head/Mk
Message-ID:  <20121115163843.GH75103@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAF6rxg=TrZ3cdvRL8sOiyfr6uquNw%2BeC4xKv5F1fKNwo-w15sA@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <201211151436.qAFEahgO099183@svn.freebsd.org> <CAF6rxgkh%2BWFoqo8ii8t6iOvu4zn_pHsAAVKZW%2BzDaaBZaFRXeg@mail.gmail.com> <20121115161242.GA88933@FreeBSD.org> <CAF6rxg=TrZ3cdvRL8sOiyfr6uquNw%2BeC4xKv5F1fKNwo-w15sA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:22:47AM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote:
> On 15 November 2012 11:12, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:08:06AM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote:
> >> On 15 November 2012 09:36, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >> > New Revision: 307457
> >> > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/307457
> >> >
> >> > Log:
> >> >   Add SOCKS and STROKE options standard descriptions.
> >>
> >> Can portmgr please make it more clear what is and isn't permitted
> >> during a feature freeze?
> >> http://www.freebsd.org/portmgr/implementation.html would seem to say
> >> that this commit is not allowed (any commit to bsd.*.mk) but I've seen
> >> already a few commits to this file.
> >
> > Oops, technically you're right, sorry, didn't catch that *any* part.  On
> > the other hand, I do not think this particular commit can break anythin=
g,
> > plus we already had branched.  I can grep -R just to make sure.
>=20
> To be clear:
>=20
> I want portmgr to clarify this. I *don't* want this to be disallowed.
>=20
> The problem is that there isn't any document that is actually being follo=
wed
> that says "this is okay, but that isn't".
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Eitan Adler
> Source, Ports, Doc committer
> Bugmeister, Ports Security teams

Everything can't be written in a policy, or that would be so long that noone
will actually read it.

We expect people to have some common sense. The main reason for this freeze=
 is
to be able to have clean packages for the release and we don't want any com=
mit
to break the tree so that we are sure to have the cleanest packages tree po=
ssible.

So before committing ask yourself "does it ever has a chance to be able to =
break
things?"

Modifying something that can potentially have an inpact on the ports buildi=
ng
process is definitly prohibited, doing a sweep commit is prohibited,
modifying the license framework is prohibited in the sense that it can act =
on
restricted informations and thus inpact lots of ports etc, we can't list al=
l.

But modifying options descriptions or adding some new can't have any inpact=
 so
obviously it is feature safe.

Sure we need some policy, but please, can we avoid too much bureaucracy and=
 trust
the common sense? I think in that parcitular case of ports freeze the rules=
 are
quite clear, and if you have a single doubt just send a mail requesting for=
 a
portmgr approval.

regards,
bapt

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