From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 27 03:28:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4464AF773E1 for ; Sun, 27 May 2018 03:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurenchan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x235.google.com (mail-it0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA5796C68D for ; Sun, 27 May 2018 03:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurenchan@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x235.google.com with SMTP id j186-v6so11220717ita.5 for ; Sat, 26 May 2018 20:28:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=F6jYaE9KZ3w5CYTMd7P7t2aypoiVgy0ydH7IX4Z2f/s=; b=lnYl3AlEl9EM3mBPKIx20F61U+/UhN9PphZd/Oo6moX6TH7fZTmRb9ngrJkDKdb88X EDUFTdWqXjGnkthuZsqf+PV4n46zhTTx+M4dNCGikMmcuVUIir49dxH1v72JbtTJRCcM tOgJs0C3x3CbOrCddTBxJJyC3eYCrTRSRmOB95k9fvhJJ5Y8x5IhPYKJI8VbKTfCh6UR /cx3GfE2dHr4Zwmw2jexdK7azMnHCkcJZwSvODMoEBSHqmd3IoC1m+K+UWMFiYD/UC1G UgVAtWyx1IId4bxgb6OH91cD6Di7jUSeHWnKzv2DjmT4oHC+ihe8ZdOKOrtWqpo2JRib M+iA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=F6jYaE9KZ3w5CYTMd7P7t2aypoiVgy0ydH7IX4Z2f/s=; b=drt4x0rvh7SgZilpXW8kUlS/OwJRttvzmeD0CHZVbVq2DydBnq7YNCbeJLK+I65jVv 6HBaEBfayZmOEdZVQjrcREAZJ6eQG54tNstX8FkcqAEB8o7L3AfZiKjCZQkeLOVGQfYh DC4CGT70UT/Y5TSlLMLmNKBR6eMJGJmoZAREwbu5sIipGDDbEdfQIstVH7iaF3zHbHnH hAR8gRSJvXtfBHp0fbZsd4VqZoE5r2f4nA9ZFlEpHOj+TzWKqZjMp7ybwWFPJcz1jpyK 6uXziknhP3zQdaEHe+tym9cT60DEdigWe+DeBFotR9S2WxD9ZJEdaTy/TYue1P4xHit3 K3Og== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPweCNlRH5C0BBqV/0qSs9kgK0PDGKCfaAYaUkCKWtXBIaxn/NwFm ra+NrtjROnkP5GaWDBUx4/XRLyB9vG49LJ8laT8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpVbq4XXCuNNHwAxmLNN34pyuMdtzft3CT06usGaISlk4XByjW32N7OW7tM9RZ03HyYUeSs3u9A4xH+ZQi3IOw= X-Received: by 2002:a24:e506:: with SMTP id g6-v6mr7429732iti.117.1527391708108; Sat, 26 May 2018 20:28:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: blubee blubeeme Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 11:28:30 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FBSD on Mac To: Felix Friedlander Cc: "M. P." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 03:28:29 -0000 On Sun, May 27, 2018, 10:03 Felix Friedlander wrote: > > > > On 27 May 2018, at 10:23, blubee blubeeme wrote: > > > >> On Sun, May 27, 2018, 08:02 M. P. wrote: > >> > >> Hello I have succeded in creating an install disk for Mac but when I t= ry > >> to install single user the process hangs and I get the message Power > Fault > >> Detected. Any Ideas? Does the Mac hard drive have to be formatted for > FBSD? > > > > I wouldn't recommend trying to run anything not Mac OS on their machine= s. > > > > If your Mac is up to version 11.2 or lower you should be fine. > > > > The new Mac hardware actively does things to thwart anyone who tries to > run > > non Mac OS. > > > > Even if you do get it up and running, the wifi will be broken so you'll > > need a dongle. > > > > GPU will give you trouble as well. > > > > If it's one of the newer Mac with those led buttons you're totally out = of > > luck. > > > > If you are able to reverse engineer custom hardware and write custom > > drivers then you might be OK. > > > > If not, either run FreeBSD in a VM on Mac, sell that Mac and buy a > > compatible laptop or ... > > > > Best, > > Owen > > On the contrary, I=E2=80=99ve had great success running FreeBSD on Apple = hardware. > The hardware=E2=80=99s not actively thwarting anything, and FreeBSD alrea= dy has > drivers for most of the custom or less common hardware. (The one exceptio= n > is Wi-Fi, which is unlikely to work unless you have quite an old Mac.) > > When you say the boot process hangs, does the entire OS stop responding, > or just the installer? Is there any more detail in the message than Power > Fault Detected? > > And to answer your question, yes, the hard drive has to be formatted, but > the FreeBSD installer will do that for you automatically. > > - Felix What Mac hardware version do you run? Like I said in my previous reply if the user has newer Mac hardware he's going to be in for a world of pain. I have a 11,4 retina macbook pro and it's so problematic I bought a new laptop. Audio also proves problematic. If the users laptop is newer than 11,2 there will be issues. Best, Owen