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Date:      Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:57:14 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Vivek Khera <vivek@khera.org>, stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ffs snapshot lockup
Message-ID:  <20061006175714.GA15880@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20061006073950.GD26993@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
References:  <917B087C-5E13-4D7F-94FA-95CB0E5C1884@khera.org> <20060922190328.GA64849@xor.obsecurity.org> <555B84D2-520F-44D6-84D6-CF9CE7EE47C7@khera.org> <20060922203654.GA65693@xor.obsecurity.org> <847DD3A5-D5DD-4D3E-B755-64B13D1DA506@khera.org> <20061003084315.GA89654@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <40CE3CF0-49D2-4335-A0B8-34B5251E9E19@khera.org> <20061005083027.GK89654@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <5178C89F-B645-4A82-A7C9-FC09D458FE30@khera.org> <20061006073950.GD26993@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>

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On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 10:39:50AM +0300, Kostik Belousov wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 10:01:07AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote:
> >=20
> > On Oct 5, 2006, at 4:30 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
> >=20
> > >>
> > >>The network load was minimal at the time.  I had everyone log out and
> > >>close mail etc.
> > >>
> > >
> > >What were the symptoms of locked system ? Could you log in on =20
> > >console, or
> > >do something at the shell prompt on console ?
> >=20
> > Console was non-responsive.  This time dump locked doing /usr so =20
> > pretty much anything you try to run will block.  When the lockup =20
> > happens when dump is running on my home dir (/u/yertle1) partition, =20
> > as long as you don't need that partition you can log in and run any =20
> > programs you like.  I have a service account whose home dir is in /=20
> > var and was able to login that time to that account.  No such luck =20
> > this time since any activity pretty much uses /usr.
> >=20
> > Ping was responding (our monitoring didn't complain it was down).
> >=20
> > The only thing I could do was break to debugger on the console.
> >=20
> This is very strange. You 3 instances of getty where just reading the
> tty input, and all suspectible processes (like sshd) are waiting on net
> events. No processes are blocked on the fs. One nfsd is serving the reque=
st,
> and dump is active.

To repeat something I said earlier: when creating a snapshot
(e.g. which dump -L does), the entire system may become unresponsive
untilk the snapshot completes, which can take many minutes.

How long are you waiting before pronouncing the system deadlocked?

What does ^T on the console (e.g. when trying to log in), show you?

Kris


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