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Date:      Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:05:41 +0000
From:      "Bruce M. Simpson" <bms@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        "Li, Qing" <qing.li@bluecoat.com>, Andre Oppermann <andre@freebsd.org>, Qing Li <qingli@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, arch@freebsd.org, Ivo Vachkov <ivo.vachkov@gmail.com>, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, Vadim Goncharov <vadimnuclight@tpu.ru>
Subject:   Re: resend: multiple routing table roadmap (format fix)
Message-ID:  <47842BF5.8060907@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <4784009B.6030601@elischer.org>
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Julian Elischer wrote:
> Andre Oppermann wrote:
>>
>> People with the ultimate need for speed have to maintain their own
>> trees anyway (Bluecoat, Juniper, Sandvine, Isilon,...) and can afford
>> to cut some more corners anyway.  
>
> We are trying to get away from that. We are trying to get more BACK
> from those companies.
>

I know I keep rattling my sabre about co-operative development in "that" 
IRC channel.

The IP stack stuff everyone is looking at right now is just one example 
of the kind of development which organisations are normally not prepared 
to sponsor other than in the context of their own projects -- which is 
fair enough, they are, after all, acting in their own interests, even 
though we all stand to gain more from mutualism.

The weevil is eating away at the apple from the inside, the question is, 
who's going to tell it like it is -- and who's actually going to do 
something about it?

Hint: The grass is not necessarily greener on the Linux side of the fence.

cheers
BMS



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