From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 8 09:38:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B7DA9F31D for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 09:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mathiasp@mathiaspicker.net) Received: from mail.ngintelligence.com (mail.ngintelligence.com [5.9.85.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DABE4C41 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 09:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mathiasp@mathiaspicker.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ngintelligence.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806538A053F; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 10:31:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.ngintelligence.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.ngintelligence.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id yyidx8Dc9K28; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 10:31:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ngintelligence.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AC28A059B; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 10:31:25 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.ngintelligence.com Received: from mail.ngintelligence.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.ngintelligence.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id YxGyMQ_nMEbc; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 10:31:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from crest2.fritz.box (x5ce64946.dyn.telefonica.de [92.230.73.70]) by mail.ngintelligence.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 80E538A053F; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 10:31:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1454923852.4807.19.camel@mathiaspicker.net> Subject: Re: Removing documentation From: Mathias Picker To: John Marino , Peter Jeremy Cc: Kevin Oberman , FreeBSD Mailing List Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 10:30:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <56B8454F.8060605@marino.st> References: <56B754A8.3030605@marino.st> <20160208064305.GB63030@server.rulingia.com> <56B8454F.8060605@marino.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 09:38:56 -0000 Am Montag, den 08.02.2016, 08:35 +0100 schrieb John Marino: > On 2/8/2016 7:43 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2016-Feb-07 15:28:56 +0100, John Marino > wrote: > > > Please do an honest "fly-off" between ports-mgmt/portmaster and > > > ports-mgmt/synth. I would love to hear what signficant thing > > > portmaster > > > can do that Synth can't. (honestly) > While I like the ideas of synth, and hoped I could use it to just build my 3-8 ports with modified options, on first look I found many things suggesting that it's not yet ready: - shows uninteresting eye candy instead of build - stops at every conf file version mismatch requiring me to start make config by hand, and then to re-run when it discovers the next mismatch. I mean, WTF? - using prebuild packages requires fetching and installing them all into the local repository? pkg can use multiple repositories with different priorities, so this seems to clutter my system unnecessarily. - building blender rebuilds audio/jack every time??? - after building blender successfully, ignores (deletes?) the package with the cryptic error msg: - wants to build > 100 ports on my system, whereas portmaster -a just build 31 ports. - If I could just rebuild blender, apache, password store with my local options and install them into a local repository, that would be nice indeed, saving me from installing poudriere for this minor task. And I don't mind the ncurses dependency one bit... To comment on the original bug report: removing portmaster from documentation seems to be a bit premature. It's working fine for me, and it seems quite a lot simpler to me than synth, which makes it preferable in my book. Thinking about it, I'm not even sure the clean room build aproach of synth is actually preferable to portmaster, the messy portmaster aproach will pick up any messy thing (e.g. library) I did to my system, which might be exactly what I want. Have to think about this some more... Cheers, Mathias > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"