From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 9 23:22:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34AE1065673; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 23:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577958FC21; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 23:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o69NH3T6097248; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:17:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:17:22 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20100709.171722.575506241400307165.imp@bsdimp.com> To: dougb@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <4C36430E.4030504@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, gabor@freebsd.org, randi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r209832 - head/usr.sbin/sysinstall X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 23:22:49 -0000 In message: Doug Barton writes: : On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Randi Harper wrote: : = : > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Gabor Kovesdan : > wrote: : >> Em 2010.07.08. 23:26, Randi Harper escreveu: : >>> : >>> Author: randi : >>> Date: Thu Jul =A08 21:26:26 2010 : >>> New Revision: 209832 : >>> URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/209832 : >>> : >>> Log: : >>> =A0 Revert r209787 pending further discussion. : >>> : >>> =A0 Approved by: cperciva (mentor) : >>> : >> : >> Thanks! As I mentioned on IRC, I'll also try to improve this featu= re, : >> I'm : >> just very busy with other projects at the moment. : = : Unfortunately the road to the current sysinstall hell was paved with : just such good intentions. My suggestion is that we all get out of th= e : way of the people who are, actually, DOING the work. :) For this specific option, however, what harm would there be in leaving well enough alone? Or, failing that, adding "(experts only)" to it? : > As was mentioned on IRC, I think a good stopgap would be to at leas= t : > remove the upgrade option from the main menu. It's not really an : > acceptable form of upgrade, it doesn't do an intelligent merging of= : > config files. It would be better placed in the Fixit submenu if we'= re : > going to be leaving it around for a while and renaming it to someth= ing : > like "Mangle My Filesystem". :P : = : Sounds like a better option would be to just remove it from the menu : altogether and ifdef 0 the code. That way if $SOMEONE wants to step i= n : and fix the existing code within a reasonable period of time (6 month= s : or less?) then they will still have that option, but users won't : suffer in the meantime. In 6 months, I suspect there will be a very different field of play in the installer space. Warner