From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Apr 15 0:33:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from riker.skynet.be (riker.skynet.be [195.238.3.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BD137B443 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.241.123] ([194.78.241.123]) by riker.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with ESMTP id f3F7VYq20219; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:31:34 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <15065.19338.850049.104004@guru.mired.org> References: <15064.49780.575271.567653@guru.mired.org> <15065.19338.850049.104004@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:31:31 +0200 To: Mike Meyer From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Just an observation - MUA's seen in the lists Cc: Kris Kirby , Terry Lambert , Rahul Siddharthan , Brett Glass , Chip Wiegand , FreeBSD Chat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2:19 AM -0500 4/15/01, Mike Meyer wrote: > In that case, you're not reading carefully enough. I just highlighted > the phrase "source code" for you. It's in the sentence I quoted above. You are quoting out of context. From : | 1. What is OpenOffice.org? | | OpenOffice.org is the open source project through which Sun Microsystems has | released the technology for the popular StarOffice[tm] Productivity Suite. All of | the StarOffice source code is available under the GNU Lesser General Public | License (LGPL) as well as the Sun Industry Standards Source License (SISSL). Sun | will participate as a member of the OpenOffice.org community going forward. | OpenOffice.org is being hosted by CollabNet. It does say that all of the StarOffice software is available under the GNU LGPL and that Sun will participate as a member of the OpenOffice.org project, but nowhere does it say that all of this code has actually been contributed to the OpenOffice.org project. You're clearly supposed to make this conclusion, but this is never stated outright anywhere on the web site that I have been able to find. Indeed, elsewhere it does say that Sun has contributed some technology to the OpenOffice.org project, but by making this statement it is pretty clear that not everything has been contributed, and indeed perhaps only relatively minor parts of StarOffice have been contributed. When I see that StarOffice no longer exists, and that everything is done under OpenOffice instead, and that even Sun simply redistributes OpenOffice (unchanged) for their own machines, then I'll believe that OpenOffice is a real open source project, and that they do truly have the full backing of Sun. But not until then. -- Brad Knowles, /* efdtt.c Author: Charles M. Hannum */ /* Represented as 1045 digit prime number by Phil Carmody */ /* Prime as DNS cname chain by Roy Arends and Walter Belgers */ /* */ /* Usage is: cat title-key scrambled.vob | efdtt >clear.vob */ /* where title-key = "153 2 8 105 225" or other similar 5-byte key */ dig decss.friet.org|perl -ne'if(/^x/){s/[x.]//g;print pack(H124,$_)}' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message