From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 19:35:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3947416A4DC for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:35:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0BBD43D48 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:35:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.27.163 with login) by smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2005 19:35:17 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:35:03 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200502061420.24415.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <1916926078.20050207201710@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1916926078.20050207201710@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200502071135.03663.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: favor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:35:18 -0000 On Monday 07 February 2005 11:17 am, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Eric Kjeldergaard writes: > > EK> Perhaps they take a greater risk, or perhaps things are simpler > than EK> that. Perhaps, upon submitting something according to the > simple EK> instructions with intent for it to be published, it gets > published EK> as the general populous would expect...Often things are > not EK> complicated. > > You forget the most likely option of all: For years, cyberspace was > dominated by geeks, and ignored by lawyers and the general public. > Now, with the general public and the lawyers watching cyberspace very > closely indeed, it will no longer be possible for the geeks to get > away with doing whatever they want, for better or for worse. > > Greater regulation and legal hassles are the trend for the future. > Pretending it isn't happening will only leave one all the more > vulnerable to it as it arrives. Yes, but waving your hands in the air doesn't solve anything. Moreover, you haven't proven that your issues with the way the list is run is a legal liability. Although anyone can speculate about law, when you're getting into this area, it helps a lot if you're qualified to speak with authority. If it is indeed a liability, you need to do more than posit that it might be, and you should have some examples to back up your assertions. If you're asking FreeBSD to change their mailing list, then you have to present more than a layperson's opinion that there might be a problem, and, really, you should have a solution, otherwise all you're doing is waving your hands. - jt