From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 12:10:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854A016A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:10:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CA0343D41 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:10:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 30111 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2004 12:10:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (213.16.36.106) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 17 Nov 2004 12:10:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 9640 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Nov 2004 12:10:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:10:14 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: H Matik Message-ID: <20041117121014.GP970@straylight.m.ringlet.net> Mail-Followup-To: H Matik , lioux@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200411131937.36024.h@matik.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l7GkBbkEatsaRqBf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200411131937.36024.h@matik.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: lioux@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FBSD edonkey-gui-gtk-port X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:10:19 -0000 --l7GkBbkEatsaRqBf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 07:37:34PM -0200, H Matik wrote: > about edonkey-gui-gtk-0.6.2_1 Now, a couple of points here right from the start :) You seem to have an issue with a port, a part of the FreeBSD Ports Collection. While it is great that you want to report this issue to the FreeBSD Project - this is the only way we can actually find out what users like and dislike, and the only way we can fix it in the next releases - please note that neither the freebsd-doc list nor the Board of Directors of the FreeBSD Foundation is a suitable place to complain about it. The best person to contact would have been the net/edonkey-gui-gtk port maintainer, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , as you have already done; apart from the maintainer, the best, if not to say only, place to report port issues should be the freebsd-ports mailing list. There is absolutely no reason for CC'ing the -doc list, and about CC'ing the FreeBSD Foundation BoD - well, I dunno what to say :) Now, about your complaint, see below... > I could have gotten a realy bad impression about freebsd after=20 > installing the edonkey-gui-gtk-0.6.2_1 port. >=20 > I think it is really not developer's issue WHO runs a programm. >=20 > So may be it may be usefull to give a security advice but not a=20 > stupid message box as yours saying to run with=20 > =20 > --noob-wants-to-run-as-root >=20 > First I thought that FreeBSD's level was real higher and still=20 > believe in this and not in such kind of childish flame comments. >=20 > So please make professional valuable comments but do not offend or=20 > humiliate people.=20 This particular problem - that the GTK interface to edonkey displays a message box when you try to run it as root unless you also specify that command-line option - is not the "fault" of the FreeBSD port in any way :) This is the way the program itself behaves - the ChangeLog in the source tarball says that this was added back in December 2003. If the author of a program has decided that for any reason, security or otherwise, his program should not be run as root, or should be run as root only in special circumstances, it is *not* for the FreeBSD port maintainer to decide to remove that obstacle. The point of the FreeBSD Ports Collection is to take third-party programs and get them to run on FreeBSD, so the users can actually use them; the point is NOT to modify the programs, ignoring the intent of their original author. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@cnsys.bg roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 This sentence contradicts itself - or rather - well, no, actually it doesn'= t! --l7GkBbkEatsaRqBf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBmz+m7Ri2jRYZRVMRAqBxAJ9QcIjJnQN2FHPAeEiyqxXHdlzd0ACgk+R5 I9IoaZnssmDTrwnXe8VtSQc= =TDpN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l7GkBbkEatsaRqBf--